Not really.

Facebook is not doing what WeChat is doing, not remotely close.

Facebook allows people to communicate, and censors some stuff that is hateful. You can say anything you want 'against America' on FB. The US government does not have access to FB data without jumping through a lot of legal hoops and process, and even then, it's on a case by case basis. The US government has no influence over FB otherwise.

WeChat is an organ of the state, they have internal staff who are CCP members who ensure party loyalty. They censor absolutely anything and everything they want, they can promote systems that are 'pro-China' and ban others. They can use any and all data for purposes of control and suppression (social score etc.). If they have such apps in foreign countries they can access sensitive information, photos, communications, censor and effectuate propaganda.

Those are not very comparable entities.

This is nonsense, the CCP has millions of members in China, the same way that Democrats and Republicans are infiltrated in every company in America. The American national security agencies (NSA, etc.) are infiltrated in every large American corporation, especially in the technology area. You're just creating an excuse (political affiliation) to demonize a country's entire industry.

i really wonder in what world you are living. When was the last time the US government acticely censored FB or twitter or snapchat?

now try to find some ccp critical content on WeChat or TikTok (eg videos of Hong Kong protest). Especially while being on mainland China.

please let us know how it went

I you say something about Trump on Facebook, there is a 0% chance it will be censored by the CIA. There is a tiny chance it will be censored if you are calling for violence.

If you say something about Xi that is negative on WeChat there is almost a 100% chance it will be censored.

They have an Army of censors controlling all thoughts, making sure everyone is line with party ideals.

The comparison can't even be made materially - where do people get their information from? It's scary.

Would you please stop using HN primarily for political/ideological/national battle? I don't want to have to ban you again but you're clearly not using this site as intended.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and sticking to the rules when posting here, we'd be grateful.

> 0% chance it will be censored by the CIA.

Well, yeah, even when the US does violate the overt guarantees in its Constitution to suppress internal dissent, it's not the foreign intelligence service that is the direct vehicle. Mostly, it’s the FBI/Justice Department.

The problem is when there is no reciprocity.

The CCP plays the game unfairly and cheats blatantly.