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Re:Woman dies during a ransomware attack on a German hospital by young_unixer on Friday September 18, 2020 @04:12PM (#24521399)
Arson is a physically violent act, hacking is not. For any reasonable moral standpoint those things are very different.
Re:Woman dies during a ransomware attack on a German hospital by cortesoft on Friday September 18, 2020 @04:55PM (#24521798)
It depends on what you hack, doesn't it? If your hack causes physical harm, it is a physically violent act. You wouldn't say that someone firing a gun didn't commit a physically violent act just because all they did was pull a trigger.
Re:Woman dies during a ransomware attack on a German hospital by young_unixer on Friday September 18, 2020 @06:00PM (#24522304)
There must be a distinction between:

1. Actions that are physically violent

2. Actions that cause physical harm, but the action itself is not physically violent

If 1 and 2 were the same, it would imply that voting for a politician that decides to kill people is just as bad as killing people yourself. The consequences of that wouldn't be good.

> You wouldn't say that someone firing a gun didn't commit a physically violent act just because all they did was pull a trigger.

If the gun is their property, it's their fault that their property is attacking someone. It's not pulling the trigger that's wrong, its that their property attacked someone else. Same idea applies to killer robots.

If the gun is not their property, then it's their fault that they used someone else's property.

Re:Woman dies during a ransomware attack on a German hospital by harimau777 on Friday September 18, 2020 @07:01PM (#24522693)
If you reasonably know that the politician would murder someone then you absolutely are equally bad if you vote for them
Re:Woman dies during a ransomware attack on a German hospital by srtjstjsj on Saturday September 19, 2020 @10:05AM (#24527496)
Arson is not physically violent by this nonsensical distinction. It's just a chemical reaction that spreads on its own.
Re:Woman dies during a ransomware attack on a German hospital by FpUser on Friday September 18, 2020 @04:20PM (#24521475)
If you hacked with the intention of harming/killing persons then it sure is violent act as the intent matters. Obviously in that particular case hackers did not really want to physically harm.
Re:Woman dies during a ransomware attack on a German hospital by matkoniecz on Friday September 18, 2020 @04:46PM (#24521738)
Attacking hospital, including machines handling life support is still a violent act.

I see no real moral difference between arson and launching ransomware attacks.

Re:Woman dies during a ransomware attack on a German hospital by Jweb_Guru on Friday September 18, 2020 @08:17PM (#24523288)
The only difference I see is that hacking is always premeditated, making this a much worse instance of murder by definition.