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Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by munificent on Thursday September 17, 2020 @05:54PM (#24510428)
If a business wants its employees to leave politics at the door, the business should too. If Facebook is going to have departments for government affairs, public policy, and lobbying, then it is entirely reasonable for employees to be politically active too.

Otherwise, you're basically saying corporations should participate in the political process but individuals should not. And that's exactly how we got the Earth into the increasingly shitty state it is currently in.

Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by reader_mode on Thursday September 17, 2020 @06:57PM (#24510968)
That's a straw man argument, just because an employee isn't allowed to bring politics to work doesn't mean they can't be politically active on their own time.
Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by kelnos on Friday September 18, 2020 @06:44AM (#24515116)
I don't think it is. If the corporation is going to be donating to groups and lobbying politicians in support of certain policies, are employees who are strongly against those policies supposed to just shut up, ignore it, and do their work?

I'm lucky that I'm in a place financially and career-wise that I can just quit and find a new job if I disagree with my company's politics, but many others don't have that luxury. Their choices are either to talk about it and try to get their company to change, or feel awful keeping quiet.

Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by munificent on Thursday September 17, 2020 @08:02PM (#24511432)
So individuals can do recreational politics but corporations are free to sink as much of their resources into it as they want?

Is your claim that we really need more corporate control over politics in the US and less citizen participation?

Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by newcomputer on Friday September 18, 2020 @12:48AM (#24513099)
Individuals are also free to sink as much of their resources into it as they want.

The fact of the matter is political conversations have high risk of annoying/frustrating/alienating their participants. To have these conversations at work is just making employees less productive and asking for a controversy.

Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by namuol on Friday September 18, 2020 @01:45AM (#24513353)
> To have these conversations at work is just making employees less productive and asking for a controversy.

I dare say it might be time for some employees at Facebook to pause and think about how their work may have an impact on the world.

Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by fxtentacle on Friday September 18, 2020 @03:14AM (#24513856)
That would be frustrating. And it might lower their productivity.

As Facebook, I'd rather pay for some yoga classes so that people don't have time to think about their actions.

Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by kelnos on Friday September 18, 2020 @06:46AM (#24515134)
I'm not the parent you're replying to, but I think we're talking about two different things here.

I agree that there's no need to bring up politics in the break room (or worse, during active work) and risk alienating people. It's a bad idea, just like talking about or advocating for particular religious beliefs.

But if your company is being politically active in ways you find unethical, I don't think it's reasonable to expect people to just put their heads in the sand, ignore it, and get their work done. And not everyone has the luxury of quitting a job whenever their don't agree with the company's politics.

Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by Talanes on Saturday September 19, 2020 @02:08PM (#24529332)
And you believe that people being asked to quietly do work for a company advancing politics they disagree with are going to be MORE productive? I know I'd be quietly fuming and doing minimal work for weeks after a mandate like that.
Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by refurb on Thursday September 17, 2020 @08:42PM (#24511740)
Otherwise, you're basically saying corporations should participate in the political process but individuals should not.

I have no idea how you came to this conclusion.

That's like saying "if employees don't have total freedom of speech at work that means only corporations have freedom of speech".

Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by andreilys on Thursday September 17, 2020 @07:53PM (#24511370)
Any sufficiently large company will be involved with politics. That's the nature of being a multi-billion dollar company.
Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by StanislavPetrov on Friday September 18, 2020 @02:29AM (#24513561)
That's not how it works. The business is employing you, not the other way around. They are the ones who set the standards for behavior in the workplace, not you, the employee. If you don't like it, you are free to move on.
Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by kelnos on Friday September 18, 2020 @06:50AM (#24515161)
> The business is employing you, not the other way around.

It's a two-way street. You are providing your services to the company in exchange for compensation. It's an unequal relationship, to be sure, but the company needs employees to exist and survive.

> If you don't like it, you are free to move on.

If only life were that simple, and if jobs were so plentiful and easy to come by that people could be so picky. Sure, a lot of tech workers are in a great place financially such that they can quit in protest (and lose their health insurance, among other things), but most workers don't have that luxury.