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Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by benjohnson on Thursday September 17, 2020 @04:07PM (#24509321)
Our small company has a "No drama" policy. We have an astounding diverse team and we've learned to appreciate each other.
Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by tolbish on Friday September 18, 2020 @02:10AM (#24513461)
Does your company do anything remotely controversial such as moderating how people are informed, or providing tech for military organizations?
Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by ry_co on Friday September 18, 2020 @12:03PM (#24518467)
It is a political opinion itself to think those actions are controversial. At scale, anything is political. The only solution is to keep politics out of business, and manifest our political opinions through government. Business, like economics or biology, is dismal. The most efficient and productive continue on.

Government's role is to make the ideologically agnostic machine of business align with our values. In the kind of competitive economy we have, it can only be this way. If we try to apply politics from within a business, we risk introducing instabilities and ineffeciencies, making the business less competitive–an existential threat to the values we incorporated into the business.

Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by dragonwriter on Friday September 18, 2020 @12:06PM (#24518509)
> It is a political opinion itself to think those actions are controversial.

No, the existence of controversy over an issue is a question of empirical fact, not political opinion.

The ascription of significance to the existence of controversy may be a political opinion (and is certainly a value-based opinion), but not the question of whether controversy exists.

Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by ballenf on Friday September 18, 2020 @02:34PM (#24520319)
If it's an empirical fact, how much objection from how many (and which) people is enough to cross the line into controversial? You can always find at least one upset person about any significant decision of any company, thus it's inherently political when you decide which group of people or how big a group you have to have to merit the "controversial" badge.

Those complaining of being deplatformed would probably agree strongly with your definition, however, so I will admit the definition of this word is itself controversial. Or maybe I shouldn't, because the prior sentence feels very political to me.

Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by dragonwriter on Friday September 18, 2020 @05:19PM (#24521977)
> If it's an empirical fact, how much objection from how many (and which) people is enough to cross the line into controversial?

Any. Controversial is a continuous-valued, not binary, attribute.

How controversial is enough to justify a particular reaction? That's a political judgement, and in practice has as much to do with where you stand on the controversy as how much controversy there is.

Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by watwut on Friday September 18, 2020 @06:10AM (#24514935)
> we've learned to appreciate each other.

How do you know if people cant express anger at someone? It is not mock question. I recently found out that colleagues who pretended to have good relationships (because we dont talk negatively about others as cultural thing) had long term resentments against each other. And those resentments were influencing work under surface in negative way - until it blew up into dysfunction which is how I realized.

Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by benjohnson on Saturday September 19, 2020 @11:58PM (#24531780)
We have an issue system - instead of "Bob always leaves his mess to clean up" if you have a problem your supposed to put it in generic terms like "kitchen is sometimes left a mess" and then put a counter measure: "kitchen cleaning trainig and checklist".

If the countermeasure is reasonable we implement it.

We've found this keeps people from festering. Heck.. one employee thought he was being underpaid. He was.

He put it in the issue tracking system and we now have a public skill system and renumeration scale.

Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by shakkhar on Sunday September 20, 2020 @01:14PM (#24535345)
Not saying that this can't work in practice, but it sounds a bit passive-aggresive to me. I'd imagine if someone has some feedback for me, they'd talk to me directly instead of leaving a ticket in an issue tracker. You already mentioned that your company is small and this system has worked for you so far, but I doubt this will work at Facebook scale.
Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by ikiris on Thursday September 17, 2020 @08:44PM (#24511757)
For a lot of people, appreciating all people and letting them live their lives is "politics"
Re:FB to curb internal debate over sensitive issues amid emp... by pjc50 on Friday September 18, 2020 @05:50AM (#24514828)
Does it also have a sexual harrasment policy, or is the response to one employee reporting that another groped them going to be "you're fired"? As is traditional?