Re:Statement Regarding the Zen Programming Language
by chriseidhof on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @10:39AM
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Apple's Xcode is a free download, the Swift compiler is open source. However, to become an "official" developer on the Apple platforms and publish apps you do need a paid developer account.
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Re:Statement Regarding the Zen Programming Language
by hinkley on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @01:10PM
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And if you're doing ruby or nodejs or a handful of other languages, you can use the XCode CLI and most of your code (possibly all) will never see the App Store submission queue.
Re:Statement Regarding the Zen Programming Language
by pjmlp on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @10:42AM
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Hence commercial.
Re:Statement Regarding the Zen Programming Language
by fastball on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @11:23AM
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Signing binaries and distributing apps on the MacOS and iOS app store is commercial.
The compiler isn't commercial, unless you are saying that anything Apple makes is "commercial" because they are a for-profit business.
Re:Statement Regarding the Zen Programming Language
by cultus on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @10:46AM
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It makes sense for Apple though, because what the devs are really paying for is access to Apple's closed-source ecosystem, not the tooling itself. This company has no such market power; why would anyone want to pay for Zen, when it has no established ecosystem or audience?
Re:Statement Regarding the Zen Programming Language
by trevor-e on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @12:22PM
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I'm writing a Swift project right now on my Windows computer using WSL, not paying anything to Apple...
Re:Statement Regarding the Zen Programming Language
by bumblebritches5 on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @10:46AM
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Xcode dev here, I have a certificate with a free account.
You only need to pay for it if you distribute your app on the app store.