Re:Show HN: Lag – Know Before You Go
by renewiltord on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @04:05AM
(#24478923)
Make your internet slow at #2. Presumably you don't want an army of people all on the Internet at your art cafe anyway.
As for #1, there are physical capacity limits you are likely to first exhaust. Only so many people will fit.
Actually two of my cafés have a "no computers in the evening" rule, one also has a "no computers on the terrace" rule. Now that I think about it more, with fast mobile data I don't think network speed is going to be much of a factor for places like that.
For #1, if you have ten people all on Zoom meetings at the same time, isn't that going to kill your fast-for-a-café bandwidth?
Re:Show HN: Lag – Know Before You Go
by JoshTriplett on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @05:08AM
(#24479262)
> For #1, if you have ten people all on Zoom meetings at the same time, isn't that going to kill your fast-for-a-café bandwidth?
Not unless they all start at the same time. If they start a little staggered from each other, there will be time to boot the first person out for trying to do a video call in a cafe around other humans before the next one starts.
Working in a cafe is completely reasonable, and wouldn't disturb other people. Taking a call is ridiculous.
Eh, from a noise level there’s no difference with having an in-person meeting at a cafe, which happens all the time and is not bothersome (depending on the cafe).
Re:Show HN: Lag – Know Before You Go
by JoshTriplett on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @09:48PM
(#24488773)
There's a noticeable difference between an in-person meeting and a call. Most people are a lot louder in the latter.
Re:Show HN: Lag – Know Before You Go
by Dylan16807 on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @05:05AM
(#24479248)
Even on sub-par infrastructure, a business-class connection should never be slower than 100/100mbps, and 10 people on zoom wouldn't be a problem. So the question becomes whether the infrastructure is garbage.
This depends heavily on type of connection. 100/100 should be bare minimum, yes, but for example Comcast coaxial business-class is still like 5-10mbit up.
Re:Show HN: Lag – Know Before You Go
by Dylan16807 on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @05:16AM
(#24479309)
And that's garbage.
They need to replace some filters and other pieces so that more frequencies can be allocated to upload.
Re:Show HN: Lag – Know Before You Go
by renewiltord on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @05:08AM
(#24479264)
Ten people can be handled by symmetric 20 Mbps. That's not that high. And you're not going to have ten people on video calls in a space that can only get 20 Mbps.
For the 1st, a critical mass has to be reached in order for it to become a problem. Even if it does and slows it down, then the places where the speeds are fast will become attractive for the same people. This is just a hypothesis, it will be interesting to see the dynamics created by such service.
W.r.t 2nd, Yep!
1. It might route too many people to where the network is fast, thus making the network not fast anymore and wasting a lot of people's time as they "go."
2. It might also route a bunch of "digital nomads" to my local art café where they will hog the tables, like Waze did with commuter traffic to my residential street.
How do you avoid those two problems? Or at least the first one, which is a problem for your target users?