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Re:Nvidia to Acquire Arm for $40B by klelatti on Monday September 14, 2020 @05:24PM (#24475329)
Very briefly:

- They don't license because they can make a lot more money manufacturing the chips themselves.

- AMD also has the right to x86 because Intel originally allowed them to build x86 compatible chips (some customers insisted on a 'second source' for cpus) and following legal action and settlements between the two companies over the years there is now a comprehensive cross licensing agreement in place. [1]

- Note that AMD actually designed the 64 bit version x86 that is used in most laptops / desktops and servers these days.

[1] https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/amd-clar...

Re:Nvidia to Acquire Arm for $40B by deaddodo on Monday September 14, 2020 @11:38PM (#24477661)
> some customers insisted on a 'second source' for cpus

IBM required it. It was their business MO to protect themselves from losing access to a technology or having the market be dictated by one company. Intel acquiesced so that they would be the architecture of the IBM PC-series.

Re:Nvidia to Acquire Arm for $40B by tibbydudeza on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @01:07PM (#24483659)
Afaik they could implement the ISA but not the Intel interconnect bus so AMD licensed Hypertransport (as used in the Alpha) from DEC so you had different motherboards/chipsets.
Re:Nvidia to Acquire Arm for $40B by deaddodo on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @04:55PM (#24486596)
All second source AMD (and other manufacturer) chips were pin-compatible with Intel chips. Compare the i386/am386, the i486/am486, etc. Even a few non-second source (e.g. the unique uArchs that came later) designs were still pin-compatible, such as the 5x86 and K6/K6-II/K6-III. In fact, the third parties were the first to break away from electrical compatibility with their Super Socket 7 motherboards.

Intel did change sockets as a means to disallow socket-compatibility; forcing consumers into their architecture if they bought their motherboard, but that had no effect on AMD's development. AMD had purchased a significant share of DEC's engineering portfolio and, along with it, their employees. Those employees then developed the K7 (Athlon) architecture around some of the Alpha's technological advantages, which included HyperTransport, a multi-issue FPU (fixing one of the major issues AMD had struggled with and bringing them ahead of Intel), etc.

Re:Nvidia to Acquire Arm for $40B by pjmlp on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @07:04AM (#24479850)
Those cross licenses are the only reason why this laptop isn't running on Itanium, without them there wouldn't exist AMD64.
Re:Nvidia to Acquire Arm for $40B by rcgorton on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @12:07PM (#24482900)
The 'only' reasons (plural) that your laptop does not run Itanium: - battery life: an Itanium in a laptop would run for less than an your - too hot: Itanium servers ran incredibly hot due to power. A laptop would probably catch fire in short order - Windows was not supported on Itanium - cost: would you pay $5K for an Itanium laptop?
Re:Nvidia to Acquire Arm for $40B by whereistimbo on Monday September 14, 2020 @10:08PM (#24477225)
some customers? I heard it was IBM.