Bootstrapping a Forth in 40 lines of Lua code (2008)

Re:Bootstrapping a Forth in 40 lines of Lua code (2008) by dfischer on Monday September 14, 2020 @05:53AM (#24468426)

I don't agree with that conclusion that it just works. I'd argue that it doesn't work and gives the false illusion of things working right or well.

There's a lot to unpack there.

Another way to describe it is that software and hardware are only becoming increasingly complex. What are the total amount of people that understand this complexity end to end? That is a very small elite. Given anything goes wrong like infrastructure or some unknown unknown event then the entire idea of "Just Works" is going to be surely broken. This is a huge attack vector to humanity.

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Re:Bootstrapping a Forth in 40 lines of Lua code (2008) by akkartik on Monday September 14, 2020 @11:51AM (#24471584)

You've probably seen Jonathan Blow's talk on the subject: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pW-SOdj4Kkk

I'm super interested in the subject: https://github.com/akkartik/mu. In the framework of this thread I focus on 2 of the 3 layers: problem and software. Hardware is out of scope. For now. Recently I've started thinking about BIOS (inspired by https://caseymuratori.com/blog_0031). So perhaps it's only a matter of time.

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Re:Bootstrapping a Forth in 40 lines of Lua code (2008) by dfischer on Monday September 14, 2020 @07:32PM (#24476332)

I haven’t seen the talk actually. I’m increasingly more interested in this problem space and it’s good to find like-minded people and ideas. Thanks for sharing. I’ll look into it!

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