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Re:Physics is stuck by willis936 on Sunday September 13, 2020 @12:29AM (#24458362)
Fusion power is not a replacement for solar. It is the technology that needs to be working in the next two hundred years if we want to see society continue on its current trend. It may be the difference between human society lasting billions of years or being a small footnote on a single planet in a dark universe. We’re already stuck with bad climate consequences. We might not destroy the entire habitat or run out of usable fuel if we stop penny pinching and actually pay what’s needed to solve a problem far harder than something like LEO launch vehicles.

As for breakeven: no plasma physicist I’ve talked to see it as some amazing barrier. It is what it’s always been: a publicity thing. It gets people excited so laypeople can point and say “See! It works!” without having to dive deep into physics and economics. The real physics goals of ITER are in testing models when pushed outside of previously measured parameters. You can’t just spend $50 billion on a reactor and hope it works. That’s why increasingly large and expensive science machines are necessary. Once a design is complete you don’t need diagnostics and scientists. You just need a tritium processing facility, some HTS coils, some vessels, and some plasma heaters.

Re:Physics is stuck by adwn on Sunday September 13, 2020 @06:21AM (#24459828)
> Fusion power is not a replacement for solar.

You're conflating ITER with fusion power in general. There're at least half a dozen competing approaches to fusion power with several orders of magnitude lower funding. Several of them are probably more promising than ITER, but ITER is primarily a political project, and only secondarily (at best) a physics project.

Re:Physics is stuck by willis936 on Sunday September 13, 2020 @07:48AM (#24460206)
I am not conflating them. “Several of them are probably more promising than ITER”. Keyword: probably. There are no magic bullets. Would I be happier to see an optimized stellarator with a 10 meter major radius? Yes. A lot of the physics goals of ITER will apply to all MCF reactor designs. If you’re touting the benefits of non-MCF fusion: vaporware. I think many designs should be funded and explored, but it’s not like people haven’t tried clever ways to put particles together before.
Re:Physics is stuck by pfdietz on Sunday September 13, 2020 @07:50AM (#24460218)
None of them are particularly promising. They may be better than ITER, but that's damning with faint praise.

Fusion is a technology that's being pursued because it was being pursued, not because it's particularly attractive from a practical point of view.