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Re:SoftBank set to sell UK’s Arm Holdings to Nvidia for $40B by bartread on Saturday September 12, 2020 @06:26PM (#24456414)
> Nope, now Nvidia is going to destroy that progress and set everything back another 5+ years.

You're blaming Nvidia. You should be blaming SoftBank and Masayoshi Son: bunch of fucking hucksters misleading people and making bad investments.

Now they need to sell ARM to fill some of the gaping void that has resulted. They couldn't care less who they sell to and what the outcome of that sale will be. I have nothing but contempt for them.

An absolutely miserable turn of events.

Re:SoftBank set to sell UK’s Arm Holdings to Nvidia for $40B by baybal2 on Saturday September 12, 2020 @07:15PM (#24456731)
> You're blaming Nvidia. You should be blaming SoftBank and Masayoshi Son: bunch of fucking hucksters misleading people and making bad investments.

You shouldn't be blaming bad investors. They pay for their decisions with their, or more often somebody's else, money.

Blame the collective ownership of means of production, which in form of public companies have dominated the Western world for the last 30+ years.

When people think of of selling their business, which is their life's work, as a raison d'etre, something is really messed up with the business culture in that person's coutnry.

Re:SoftBank set to sell UK’s Arm Holdings to Nvidia for $40B by the_other on Sunday September 13, 2020 @05:23AM (#24459569)
> You shouldn't be blaming bad investors. They pay for their decisions with their, or more often somebody's else, money.

> Blame the collective ownership of means of production, which in form of public companies have dominated the Western world for the last 30+ years.

Can you unpack these two points? I don’t understand. It sounds like you’re saying “don’t blame the owners (because investors ARE owners); blame the owners”.

Re:SoftBank set to sell UK’s Arm Holdings to Nvidia for $40B by mamon on Sunday September 13, 2020 @07:56AM (#24460242)
I think GP is arguing that public companies, which are often blamed for "shortcomings of capitalism" are in fact not capitalistic at all. "Collective ownership of means of production" was postulated by Karl Marx as one of the pillars of communism.

Publicly traded companies allow shareholders to limit their risk - when things start to go wrong you sell your shares to a bigger fool, and it's not your problem anymore. Also, as shareholders are not personally responsible for wrongdoings of their companies it also limits the risk to the buyer.

In short: publicly traded companies are enablers for moral hazard that we constantly observe in financial markets.

Re:SoftBank set to sell UK’s Arm Holdings to Nvidia for $40B by hosh on Saturday September 12, 2020 @08:29PM (#24457165)
Have you, by chance, looked into any of Carol Sandford’s work?
Re:SoftBank set to sell UK’s Arm Holdings to Nvidia for $40B by baybal2 on Saturday September 12, 2020 @08:34PM (#24457182)
No
Re:SoftBank set to sell UK’s Arm Holdings to Nvidia for $40B by jcelerier on Sunday September 13, 2020 @04:41AM (#24459400)
> When people think of of selling their business, which is their life's work

That's a bit of a grandiloquent take on reasons that could lead one to start a business.

Re:SoftBank set to sell UK’s Arm Holdings to Nvidia for $40B by dralley on Sunday September 13, 2020 @01:55PM (#24462627)
...What?

Vision Fund isn't "public", and most of the companies they invest in aren't "public".

Re:SoftBank set to sell UK’s Arm Holdings to Nvidia for $40B by willtim on Sunday September 13, 2020 @03:30AM (#24459105)
Well Brexit caused the pound to plummet and supposedly made ARM tempting. I find it ironic that the current UK Brexiteer government talk constantly about soveignty and control, yet were quite happy to allow this sale.
Re:SoftBank set to sell UK’s Arm Holdings to Nvidia for $40B by mekster on Sunday September 13, 2020 @12:02AM (#24458209)
Would anybody have bought ARM if SoftBank didn't back in 2017? I wonder if Nvidia had bought it at some point anyway.
Re:SoftBank set to sell UK’s Arm Holdings to Nvidia for $40B by justaguy88 on Sunday September 13, 2020 @01:24AM (#24458601)
Did they have to be bought? Could have been a regular public company
Re:SoftBank set to sell UK’s Arm Holdings to Nvidia for $40B by ksec on Sunday September 13, 2020 @01:11AM (#24458548)
In that case you should be blaming WeWork.