Re:A Review of Language Learning Tactics
by laybak on Saturday September 12, 2020 @03:34PM
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thanks for sharing! agreed that an ensemble approach of trying a bunch of approaches and doubling down on what works is the most effective.
Russian/Ukranian is certainly tricky to learn without formal instruction. Though as a counter example, I once met a guy who learned to converse fluently just by playing the guitar at bars and chatting up strangers. But that's just an anecdote
The academic instruction was crucial for me. No matter how much I listened, I was never going to really understand the difference between unidirectional and multidirectional verbs of motion until it was explained in a way I could really grok.
On the other hand there is quite simply no replacement for hearing and speaking with native speakers of the target language. I taught quite a few English classes and there were often Ukrainian teachers who spoke English flawlessly, but for whatever reason students who only learned from non-native English speakers were at a clear disadvantage compared to those who also had native teachers, and everyone was at a disadvantage to those who had practiced in an English speaking country.
I worked with tons of people who lived in eastern Ukraine for years and never learned Russian or Ukrainian beyond a few phrases, I really do think it takes dedicated instruction combined with tons of practice with native speakers to really make fluency happen.