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Re:If management isn't a promotion, then engineering isn't a... by yjftsjthsd-h on Friday September 11, 2020 @06:56PM (#24448175)
> Then do the same thing as a random employee. See the difference in how much of your team doesn't show up and absolutely nobody from the other team across the corridor comes.

And then do it not as a random employee, but as the senior employee who isn't technically anyone's manager but who is known for having saved the last 3 major projects by pointing out pivotal details and coordinating with other teams, and observe that everyone who's worked with that person shows up regardless of the org chart. YMMV, but let's compare apples to apples.

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Re:If management isn't a promotion, then engineering isn't a... by user5994461 on Saturday September 12, 2020 @08:59AM (#24452079)
> and observe that everyone who's worked with that person shows up regardless of the org chart

Too bad it's only a handful of people.

Well, maybe less than a handful because most of the people you saved in the past 3 years have moved on to another company or another role. They're not here for you anymore.

However the manager got that power instantly since the minute he joined, by virtue of the position. It's not an apple to apple comparison indeed.

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Re:If management isn't a promotion, then engineering isn't a... by mathgladiator on Friday September 11, 2020 @10:27PM (#24449323)
It's strange when one has this power, and managers do fear it. They learn to set expectations and modes of engagement with senior ICs.

What's really fun is when you can make a bunch of managers super nervous by mentioning "You know, we should re-org this." and this can trigger all sorts of shit.

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