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Re:Let employees sell their equity by eanzenberg on Friday September 11, 2020 @02:09AM (#24439655)
If you’re hitting ATM you’re doing extremely well for yourself and are privileged.
Re:Let employees sell their equity by mehrdadn on Friday September 11, 2020 @02:12AM (#24439674)
You seem to be unfamiliar with the AMT trap? I would recommend Googling it. It impacts people who are not well-off prior to exercising their options by triggering AMT upon exercise.
Re:Let employees sell their equity by eanzenberg on Friday September 11, 2020 @02:21AM (#24439703)
Right, but why exercise the option without next selling it? If you’re quitting, that’s a risk. And AMT is applied on the gains. So your strike is $1, valuation currently at $100 and you pay tax on the $99 gain. Unless it’s Theranos that valuation wont go back to $1, so yes, you’re privileged.
Re:Let employees sell their equity by rpedela on Friday September 11, 2020 @02:33AM (#24439763)
In private companies, you often are unable to sell your shares because it requires board approval. The AMT trap, in oversimplified terms, is being wealthy enough on paper, due to shares, to trigger AMT but unable to sell shares to cover the taxes.
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Re:Let employees sell their equity by rpedela on Friday September 11, 2020 @02:09PM (#24445576)
Grass is always greener...

It can be a tough decision, but I have been through it enough times that I don't really care what the options package is. I just want one if everyone else gets one, but otherwise I look at salary and benefits. Because most likely the shares will become worthless, and if not, I most likely won't be around to see the liquidation event. I never exercise unless I know for a fact a liquidation event is coming.

Re:Let employees sell their equity by eanzenberg on Friday September 11, 2020 @11:04PM (#24449461)
Thats different than being an uber early employee and knowing your private equity is worth a ton. I also wouldn’t exercise random startup shares unless they were real cheap and I wanted to roll the dice. The uber example is clearer. I’d always rather be a paper millionaire than not a millionaire at all. At least you have the choice to exercise some if you leave, or all if you can afford the loans. Also uber is a bad example since people DID sell their private shares as there was enough of a marketplace for it.
Re:Let employees sell their equity by mehrdadn on Friday September 11, 2020 @02:26AM (#24439732)
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Re:Let employees sell their equity by mehrdadn on Friday September 11, 2020 @04:05PM (#24446772)
OK. You posted this unsubstantive comment 3 times...
Re:Let employees sell their equity by UncleMeat on Friday September 11, 2020 @08:28AM (#24441956)
Because you literally can’t sell it. This is why we people get stuck at startups. You must immediately exercise upon leaving but cannot sell, incurring huge tax bills but zero cash in your wallet.

If you are rich you can afford it. If you aren’t, you are forced to take zero.

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Re:Let employees sell their equity by dang on Friday September 11, 2020 @07:35PM (#24448452)
Between your posting this comment three times and ignoring the many requests at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24335771, I think this is enough and have banned your account.

If you change your mind, you're welcome to email [email protected] and give us reason to believe that you'll use the site as intended.

Re:Let employees sell their equity by imtringued on Friday September 11, 2020 @07:16AM (#24441436)
This entire subthread is about "people who are doing well" getting shafted.