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Re:Animal Populations Fell by 68% in 50 Years and It’s Getti... by SamBam on Thursday September 10, 2020 @09:36AM (#24432212)
I'm interested in the fact that almost every comment replied to your anecdotal comment with anecdotes of their own about how, in fact, there are so many more animals and the world is so much cleaner.

Yet, clearly, the statistics in this article and elsewhere show that this is plainly not the case. We are killing off wildlife at an unprecedented speed.

Why the disconnect? Are all our efforts really directed towards feel-good efforts at home, maybe, which make the world look cleaner and better for nature, while obscuring the huge amount of invisible damage we're doing?

Re:Animal Populations Fell by 68% in 50 Years and It’s Getti... by burlesona on Thursday September 10, 2020 @10:55AM (#24432900)
As a sibling poster said, I think one of the issues is that the first world countries have significantly improved in many environmental metrics (litter, air, and water quality most of all), so people there have a lived experience which includes things getting better. Meanwhile it’s really hard for us to grasp how much the population of places like Africa, Indonesia, and India have exploded in the last fifty years, nor how much environmental damage has occurred there. Not to mention China.

This is going to be increasingly difficult part of dealing with environmental damage. It will not be enough for North America and Europe to decarbonize. Somehow we have to bring the rest of the world along with us. But they haven’t enjoyed the benefits of all the environmental destruction over the last 200 years, as we have, and (understandably), they are trying to catch up.

Re:Animal Populations Fell by 68% in 50 Years and It’s Getti... by misja111 on Thursday September 10, 2020 @09:55AM (#24432372)
I guess it's a 1st World vs 3rd World thing. Also although larger animals seem to be doing better nowadays, insects are not. But those are much less visible.
Re:Animal Populations Fell by 68% in 50 Years and It’s Getti... by jjcon on Thursday September 10, 2020 @10:46AM (#24432826)
Insects are doing fine in the US but Europe isn’t faring all that well

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-020-1269-4

> Recent reports of dramatic declines in insect abundance suggest grave consequences for global ecosystems and human society. Most evidence comes from Europe, however, leaving uncertainty about insect population trends worldwide. We used >5,300 time series for insects and other arthropods, collected over 4–36 years at monitoring sites representing 68 different natural and managed areas, to search for evidence of declines across the United States. Some taxa and sites showed decreases in abundance and diversity while others increased or were unchanged, yielding net abundance and biodiversity trends generally indistinguishable from zero.