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Re:Emacs is special regarding UIs by Symbiote on Thursday September 10, 2020 @05:59AM (#24430667)
On any reasonable keyboard, the function keys are in groups of four (F1-F2-F3-F4 F5-F6-F7-F8 F9-F10-F11-F12), or sometimes three. It's not necessary to look to see where the keys are.
Re:Emacs is special regarding UIs by foobarian on Thursday September 10, 2020 @06:17AM (#24430788)
I wish the external Mac keyboard had grouped function keys. I wish I didn't have to use an external keyboard in the first place, but touchbar is even worse. In my case debugging stuff becomes annoying with ungrouped keys because it's easy to mix up step into / step over / continue.
Re:Emacs is special regarding UIs by brnt on Thursday September 10, 2020 @06:50AM (#24430988)
You're excluding pretty much every laptop there.
Re:Emacs is special regarding UIs by linspace on Thursday September 10, 2020 @07:00AM (#24431047)
I don't find laptop keyboards reasonable. They are a last resort.
Re:Emacs is special regarding UIs by lallysingh on Thursday September 10, 2020 @10:40AM (#24432775)
Thinkpads group their function keys. Who outside apple doesn't?
Re:Emacs is special regarding UIs by tlavoie on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @02:40PM (#24485017)
Thinkpads also have nice keyboards, so are hardly representative of laptops in general.

And in line with the other commenters, my corporate HP and Dell laptop function keys aren't grouped. Fortunately, I interact with both through a nice external keyboard.

Re:Emacs is special regarding UIs by pmontra on Thursday September 10, 2020 @06:19PM (#24437142)
My HP laptops don't. It's been ages since I used a non laptop keyboard and I forgot about grouping. It's a useful UX though.
Re:Emacs is special regarding UIs by brnt on Friday September 11, 2020 @08:31AM (#24441992)
Dell.