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Re:Getting Fiber to My Town [video] by flas9sd on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @08:18PM (#24427543)
in the video Jared said he's 25 years in the industry. This being nlnog, I guess in networking, one layer above the physical? good mechanical engineering skills also helped with building an diy conduit blower for the fibre cables.

The thing I most wonder about if you start to be a service provider and need to provide ongoing connectivity - you need a backup plan for when you're out of town.

Re:Getting Fiber to My Town [video] by cnst on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @09:18PM (#24427909)
And he didn't actually reply to the question on how much of his own time he has spent doing all of this.

It's impressive, but, at the same time, I'd imagine it's way too stressful to run by yourself in a small town like that. Without really that much payout, money-wise.

Re:Getting Fiber to My Town [video] by jaredmauch on Thursday September 10, 2020 @11:11AM (#24433049)
too much time.. the payback is actually reasonable (under 4 years)
Re:Getting Fiber to My Town [video] by cnst on Thursday September 10, 2020 @11:32AM (#24433266)
Are you saying you're going to recoup the value of your time in under 4 years, or would you just recoup the initial non-time investment in under 4 years?

It may sound like you might be spending something around 20 hours per week on this, if not more. If you bill your own time to your new ISP at market rate, when will you recoup the investment? Is that still 4 years?

To put some math into perspective, (20 hours/week * 4 weeks/month * 100 USD/hour) / 50 USD/month/customer = 160 customers -- that's how many customers you need to cover just your time alone, without considering any other expenses. The math should definitely work out given an adequate intake, but I think it's also easy to get lost in the community and tech part of it, forgetting the business case. Especially if you live in the middle of nowhere, without that many neighbours to sign up.

Re:Getting Fiber to My Town [video] by iptrans on Thursday September 10, 2020 @12:55PM (#24434131)
Even if Jared is spending 20 hours per week on this project now, that will not be the case after construction is finished.

As such your calculation does not hold and 160 customers will not be needed to recoup costs, cash or non-cash. There need only be enough customers to cover running expenses, administration costs and once off investment costs over time.