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Re:US federal price tag for the post-9/11 wars is over $6.4T... by boomboomsubban on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @06:46PM (#24426780)
>Consider who Saddam Hussein was, how he came to power, how he stayed in power and what his dictatorship was like

Though Hussein's power grab was later, let's not forget the US support for the Ba'ath party takeover. They were willing to purge communists, they must be good guys.

Then we gave Hussein billions in aid, because if they're willing to kill Iranians they must be good guys. Even after hearing he was gassing Kurds, we tried to blame it on Iran and continued aiding him.

>Does he strike you as someone who can maintain a dynasty?

His reign, as terrible as much of it was, at least kept the country functioning. Succession likely would have led to problems, but it's nonsense to say that justifies US action. We ensured it caused major issues to avoid a risk of it causing major issues?

>That almost sounds like your average dictator blaming all civil unrest on "foreign meddling". Sure, you can blame the US or Wikileaks for exposing these regimes, or for running a couple of covert support operations, but it also takes a huge part of the people to actually do the uprising

The US is not the main reason the people were willing to rise up, but US action unquestionably influenced when and how they rose up. If you change your original sentence I quoted to "the regime may well have collapsed over the past twenty years," I think we're in agreement.

Re:US federal price tag for the post-9/11 wars is over $6.4T... by gridlockd on Thursday September 10, 2020 @04:45AM (#24430208)
Don't get me wrong, I'm not necessarily in favor of any of these foreign interventions. I just don't accept that the US gets so much blame just for being involved at some level in a conflict that they have some strategic interest in.
Re:US federal price tag for the post-9/11 wars is over $6.4T... by boomboomsubban on Thursday September 10, 2020 @09:51AM (#24432342)
We're talking about the Iraq War here, they deserve far more blame than they get.