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Re:Why it is important that software projects fail (2008) by privacy_enjoyer on Monday September 07, 2020 @09:55AM (#24399437)
The reason the GDPR and other privacy legislation was introduced is because of the widespread abuse of people's private data for commercial and political gain.

Attempting to address this isn't a waste of time or useless.

It makes no sense to blame the people trying to solve this problem, rather than those who created it in the first place.

If anything, the GDPR didn't go far enough. Though, that's often the case with legislation trying to stop corporate malfeasance.

In my opinion - and speaking more generally, not just regarding privacy - not enough large companies have been obliterated for their harmful behaviours. They just pay a fine, or bribe some officials, and move on.

Re:Why it is important that software projects fail (2008) by perfunctory on Monday September 07, 2020 @10:19AM (#24399569)
> If anything, the GDPR didn't go far enough.

Exactly. If it went far enough the solution could have been much simpler. But instead of the real solution, politicians preferred the appearance of the solution which created enormous complexity and didn't solve the problem.

Re:Why it is important that software projects fail (2008) by afiori on Monday September 07, 2020 @12:35PM (#24400555)
what would the solution you wanted look like?
Re:Why it is important that software projects fail (2008) by narag on Monday September 07, 2020 @10:01AM (#24399466)
Attempting to address this isn't a waste of time or useless.

It is if you fail.

It makes no sense to blame the people trying to solve this problem, rather than those who created it in the first place.

Now we have two problems: the original problem that GDPR failed to solve and GDPR useless warnings.

Re:Why it is important that software projects fail (2008) by privacy_enjoyer on Monday September 07, 2020 @10:14AM (#24399536)
It hasn't failed. There's a lot more to the GDPR than the warnings you see on some websites - many of which likely don't constitute proper informed consent anyway and so would be unlawful.
Re:Why it is important that software projects fail (2008) by Ekaros on Monday September 07, 2020 @01:18PM (#24400881)
It makes companies really think: Are we allowed to have this data? Do we need this data? How do we handle this data? Can we delete someone's data? And so on.

The consent forms are just a tip of iceberg and the stupid thing. But under everything it forces companies to do things they might have not done before. And it's also a tool for developers who want things to be better. As there is finally slight risk to point out.

Re:Why it is important that software projects fail (2008) by narag on Monday September 07, 2020 @01:18PM (#24400874)
When I criticize GDPR is exactly for the warnings you see on most websites. They're a nuisance and don't prevent data collection. I need to use technical measures to have some privacy and now I also need to use additional technical measures to avoid the crappy warnings.

You say warnings are unlawful, and that's even worse, because that means they've created an unenforceable law. Or what are they waiting to prosecute those violations?

I'm not against data protection. I'm again incompetence.

Re:Why it is important that software projects fail (2008) by afarrell on Monday September 07, 2020 @03:39PM (#24402056)
> I'm against incompetence

Are you also against government waste?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zoz5EuIF_y8

Re:Why it is important that software projects fail (2008) by narag on Monday September 07, 2020 @04:31PM (#24402562)
I gave it a minute. Not very funny, frankly.