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Re:Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t dr... by nyolfen on Sunday September 06, 2020 @10:44PM (#24396233)
mongolians are also atypically short for a population with a tradition of dairying, though — those with lactase persistence are among the tallest in the world thanks to the massive caloric surplus reducing environmental selection against height in times of scarcity
Re:Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t dr... by paganel on Monday September 07, 2020 @03:36AM (#24397406)
> those with lactase persistence are among the tallest in the world thanks to the massive caloric surplus

That doesn't explain men from Bosnia-Herzegovina and from the former Yugoslavia, generally speaking. Even Wikipedia [1] mentions that area as being above Nordic countries like Sweden when it comes to average male height.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_countr...

Re:Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t dr... by Leherenn on Monday September 07, 2020 @07:31AM (#24398658)
Are they supposed to be lactose intolerant?

According to this link posted below [1], Montenegro and Albania are in the top 10 for milk consumption per capita.

[1] http://chartsbin.com/view/1491

Re:Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t dr... by AdrianB1 on Monday September 07, 2020 @07:12AM (#24398565)
I am the tallest by far in my extended family and also the only one without lactase persistence. My father is the tallest in his generation and also the only without lactase persistence. Not statistically significant, but worth mentioning.
Re:Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t dr... by cozos on Sunday September 06, 2020 @11:10PM (#24396314)
that's an interesting theory ive never heard before. Is it generally accepted that Northern Europeans are taller because their society is less prone to famine?
Re:Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t dr... by AlotOfReading on Sunday September 06, 2020 @11:25PM (#24396375)
It's relatively uncontroversial that contemporary European populations are among the tallest in the world broadly due to caloric surplus and generally good nutrition.

However it also worth noting that if we go back farther than the past century or so, it was non-european populations that were among the tallest in the world. That would be populations like the Sioux, Athabascans, and Maori. This kind of points to how big a factor social, economic and political context has on population metrics like height. Moreover, certain diets and populations simply make for shorter people. Disentangling all the effects is complicated.

For the data, I'm half-remembering a table from a paper I read years ago. Ourworldindata has a very similar table with pretty reasonable citations, so it checks out:

https://ourworldindata.org/human-height#how-does-environment...

Re:Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t dr... by econcon on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @06:58AM (#24407189)
Or we can speculate the the societies where there is more freedom are taller.

It could also be sexual selection as this stature change is too fast and usually the environment difference takes several hundred generations to show difference.

The timeline is so small I'd argue it's actually free society enabling people to chase their sexual imperitive and this sexual selection is resulting in taller population, not nutrition.

Re:Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t dr... by hbarka on Monday September 07, 2020 @05:52AM (#24398168)
Yes, like the divergence between South vs North Korea in just a few generations.
Re:Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t dr... by treeman79 on Monday September 07, 2020 @10:22AM (#24399587)
Or Japanese. Older ww2 Japanese are short. Their kids are a head above them.