Re:Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore
by nine_zeros on Sunday September 06, 2020 @08:54AM
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It appears that you have quite a few concepts completely mixed up.
I'm just going to leave it at collectivism != welfare state and xenophobia != racism. I'll allow you to do research on how such societies work.
Further, since you already color me liberal (which is incorrect), I can tell you are extremely biased in your perception of words. So feel free to take some classes in removing bias. It'll help.
Re:Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore
by AmericanChopper on Sunday September 06, 2020 @06:05PM
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The use of "liberal" in that last sentence has a different meaning. In that instance it means "to take liberties with regards to...". I was saying that I think you're "taking the liberty" of infusing your own ideas with what the actual reality of the situation is. Not that your ideas were liberal as in liberal/conservative.
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/take-li...
> Xenophobia is very low in SG. People expect to know foreigners and want foreigners to bring business or capital or skills.
An incredibly consistent social problem Singapore has had is dealing with the fact that Singapore is essentially run by Han Chinese, for the benefit of Han Chinese. Despite the governments best rhetoric, ethnic minorities and foreigners are still widely discriminated against.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-28953147
> It means that they will collectively work to build their living because no other country will help them.
I really find it hard to believe that you’re actually trying to say LKY was an advocate for collectivism.
> "Cradle-to-grave welfarism blunted the ambition of many budding entrepreneurs. Worse, high personal taxes dampened the desire of many to achieve wealth and success." - LKY
> "the folly of populist politicians who win elections playing the politics of equal rewards or egalitarianism: squeeze the successful to pay for the welfare of the poor, and end up with the equalisation of poverty" - LKY
https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/beware-the-welfarism-tr...
> “ I departed from welfarism because it sapped a people's self-reliance and their desire to excel and succeed.” - LKY
https://scroll.in/article/715572/singapores-lee-kuan-yew-on-...
> It doesn't mean that they are going to leave their citizens homeless on the streets
Except for when they do
https://lkyspp.nus.edu.sg/gia/article/singapore's-hidden-hom...
Also they’re quite happy for them to live in slums.
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/singaporescene/hidden-slums-...
> About 80% of housing in Singapore is mixed socialized
The HDB scheme does in fact provide a lot of housing. But more specifically, what it does is provide affordable housing for the middle class professionals to buy. If you’re too poor to afford rent, you’re not going to be getting any benefit from the HDB.
I’ve posted reliable sources for every claim I’ve made in this thread. You’re just posting incredibly liberal reinterpretations of reality.