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Re:Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving Capability' Falls Short of Its... by threeseed on Saturday September 05, 2020 @08:53PM (#24388041)
You can’t ship new hardware over the air.

Tesla is never going to have a solid self driving system without LiDAR. Radar’s range is limited and cameras are simply not suitable for reliable depth perception and bounding box detection.

Re:Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving Capability' Falls Short of Its... by belltaco on Saturday September 05, 2020 @09:10PM (#24388157)
Humans don't have LIDAR, they have only 2 eyes and not even radar. Yet they're able to drive pretty well, it's because they have great software to power that limited hardware.
Re:Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving Capability' Falls Short of Its... by throwaway4220 on Saturday September 05, 2020 @11:22PM (#24388709)
Yes, but Tesla has a bunch of cameras not two human eyes.

Edit: I wonder if a human can learn to drive a Tesla remotely better than another human with radar and multiple camera input by representing them in some useful way.

Re:Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving Capability' Falls Short of Its... by nradov on Saturday September 05, 2020 @11:33PM (#24388758)
Remote operation is not yet a viable option for safely operating vehicles on most public roads. Our cellular data networks are simply too unreliable. What happens when a construction crew accidentally cuts the backhaul fiber for the closest base station? Or when the car is driving through a tunnel?
Re:Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving Capability' Falls Short of Its... by 256lie on Sunday September 06, 2020 @12:27AM (#24388967)
Humans can do a lot of other things such as hear car horns, reason about driver behavior, interpret road signs, and understand casuality of driving off a cliff.
Re:Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving Capability' Falls Short of Its... by belltaco on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @01:01PM (#24423074)
Exactly my point, this is a software limitation and not hardware.
Re:Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving Capability' Falls Short of Its... by threeseed on Saturday September 05, 2020 @11:45PM (#24388807)
Humans can rapidly move their "cameras" 360 degrees, across multiple planes, with a wide field of view and at over 500 MP.

No car can come close to doing that.

Re:Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving Capability' Falls Short of Its... by vardump on Sunday September 06, 2020 @04:16AM (#24389873)
Humans don't have even remotely close to "500 MP".