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Re:Ubuntu 20.04 LTS’ snap obsession has snapped me off of it by vetinari on Saturday September 05, 2020 @11:41AM (#24384352)
The freedesktop runtime updates Mesa faster than most distributions. The current version is 20.1.5.
Re:Ubuntu 20.04 LTS’ snap obsession has snapped me off of it by dleslie on Saturday September 05, 2020 @11:50AM (#24384440)
And Arch let me build and install git HEAD, so I'm using 20.3.
Re:Ubuntu 20.04 LTS’ snap obsession has snapped me off of it by vetinari on Saturday September 05, 2020 @11:55AM (#24384479)
Forcing Arch model on eveyone is a perfect way for Linux to forever stay minority platform. There's a reason why most people do not run rolling distros.

Might be nice for hardcore fans, but good luck supporting anything there.

Re:Ubuntu 20.04 LTS’ snap obsession has snapped me off of it by dleslie on Saturday September 05, 2020 @12:05PM (#24384567)
There is a very real shift happening from Ubuntu to Manjaro.

If the sandboxed app package model is what you desire then there's already a great and popular Linux distro for you: Android.

Re:Ubuntu 20.04 LTS’ snap obsession has snapped me off of it by wyclif on Saturday September 05, 2020 @11:30PM (#24388742)
I've observed a lot of recent Manjaro adoption lately (I don't know what the real numbers are). Anecdotal, but in my social circles I'm seeing people moving from Ubuntu to either Manjaro or Arch.
Re:Ubuntu 20.04 LTS’ snap obsession has snapped me off of it by vetinari on Saturday September 05, 2020 @12:48PM (#24384940)
Don't be surprised when all the mainstream distros switch to sandboxed app model as the preferred one. Distro-based packaging of the entire world is hiting the not enough manpower problem today and eventually will be eventually relegated to super fans distro only, with similar status as Amiga has today.
Re:Ubuntu 20.04 LTS’ snap obsession has snapped me off of it by sroussey on Saturday September 05, 2020 @02:33PM (#24385784)
What is Manjaro?
Re:Ubuntu 20.04 LTS’ snap obsession has snapped me off of it by wyclif on Saturday September 05, 2020 @11:33PM (#24388760)
Best way to describe it is: a user-friendly version of Arch that is based on the AUR (Arch User Repository).
Re:Ubuntu 20.04 LTS’ snap obsession has snapped me off of it by sergeykish on Sunday September 06, 2020 @01:13AM (#24389146)
As Arch Linux user I am completely confused. Looks like there is no official comparison page like [1]. Web search first entries [2], [3] gives another picture — more stable, graphical installer, graphical package manager, hardware detection, prepackaged desktop environments — that I can relate to.

Nothing about "based on the AUR". Because it is liability. It is insecure, have to check PKGBUILD each install and update.

[1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_compared_to_other_...

[2] https://linuxconfig.org/manjaro-linux-vs-arch-linux

[3] https://itsfoss.com/manjaro-vs-arch-linux/

Re:Ubuntu 20.04 LTS’ snap obsession has snapped me off of it by wyclif on Sunday September 06, 2020 @11:37PM (#24396423)
I should have been more clear. In terms of package management Manjaro has access to the AUR, but it's unsupported. Manjaro does not have access to official Arch repositories. Sorry, I should have said "based on Arch" not "based on the AUR." https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository
Re:Ubuntu 20.04 LTS’ snap obsession has snapped me off of it by sergeykish on Monday September 07, 2020 @02:56AM (#24397185)
Ok, I would not recommend Arch as a first Linux distro, Arch based and easy to start is a plus. That said I've seen troubled Manjaro user on xmonad IRC, we tracked problem to AUR package, it worked fine on Arch.
Re:Ubuntu 20.04 LTS’ snap obsession has snapped me off of it by wyclif on Monday September 07, 2020 @08:21PM (#24404066)
Yeah, Arch Linux is definitely not for beginners. The install process alone is hands-on and requires users to be experienced with command line configuration. Arch is for power users who want a ports-based Linux with great package management (pacman).
Re:Ubuntu 20.04 LTS’ snap obsession has snapped me off of it by sroussey on Saturday September 05, 2020 @02:49PM (#24385922)
Re:Ubuntu 20.04 LTS’ snap obsession has snapped me off of it by CameronNemo on Saturday September 05, 2020 @12:23PM (#24384727)
Why would you expect to have a git snapshot shipped as the official freedesktop flatpak runtime? Could you not build your own freedesktop flatpak runtime using mesa git head?
Re:Ubuntu 20.04 LTS’ snap obsession has snapped me off of it by dleslie on Monday September 07, 2020 @09:43PM (#24404494)
> Could you not build your own freedesktop flatpak runtime using mesa git head?

It was easier to build it and not use flatpak.