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Re:FBI examined Google records to see if anyone had knowledg... by tootie on Friday September 04, 2020 @11:54PM (#24381284)
Is it? There's nothing in this disclosure that says they were fishing. It just says they identified the searches. It's entirely conceivable they had referer logs from the Guccifer site showing hits from Google at specific times and subpoenaed all correlated searches. Law enforcement being able to retrieve this kind of information when it's part of a legitimate criminal investigation is good. The worst nightmare is that broad powers get abused but in this case they caught the right guy.
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Re:FBI examined Google records to see if anyone had knowledg... by Judgmentality on Saturday September 05, 2020 @12:18AM (#24381384)
It's also entirely conceivable they didn't, and parallel reconstruction has been well-established to be a part of the US justice system for decades.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction

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Re:FBI examined Google records to see if anyone had knowledg... by tootie on Saturday September 05, 2020 @09:33AM (#24383397)
Maybe. But there's nothing in this document to say they did.
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Re:FBI examined Google records to see if anyone had knowledg... by Judgmentality on Saturday September 05, 2020 @06:21PM (#24387321)
Is this not the FBI's own report? Why would they admit to something of questionable legality? That's like trusting the internal investigation from a police department.
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Re:FBI examined Google records to see if anyone had knowledg... by Fnoord on Sunday September 06, 2020 @06:35PM (#24395181)
An internal investigation from a police department should be conducted by a department which is not directly related to the people (police officers) who are being investigated. The reason for this, is to avoid conflict of interest. If such doesn't happen in your country, that makes your country less free than it IMO should be, but don't assume its like this everywhere in the world.
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Re:FBI examined Google records to see if anyone had knowledg... by tootie on Monday September 07, 2020 @03:33PM (#24402005)
OP seems to be implying that this disclosure is incriminating of some kind overly aggressive search tactic. I'm saying it doesn't seem to imply that at all. This isn't proof of their innocence, it just isn't proof of their guilt. They _might_ be guilty of something, but there's currently no reason to think that.
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Re:FBI examined Google records to see if anyone had knowledg... by unishark on Saturday September 05, 2020 @12:19AM (#24381386)
Even if it just for one person (which does appear to be what they asked for to me), asking for their entire search histories from all their devices seems like fishing. Particularly since they used it to charge him with new crimes (lying to FBI, etc) rather than the crime they were supposedly searching for.
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Re:FBI examined Google records to see if anyone had knowledg... by therealdrag0 on Saturday September 05, 2020 @02:24AM (#24381730)
Pardon m’y ignorance but isn’t that normal? If they got a warrant for your house and found new Evidence of new crimes there they’d take and use it.
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Re:FBI examined Google records to see if anyone had knowledg... by tootie on Saturday September 05, 2020 @09:32AM (#24383395)
No. That's SOP. If someone is a suspect in a serious crime, they'll search your house, your car, your office and subpoena your phone records. And this was a national security case so you know they're going all out to find every conspirator.
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Re:FBI examined Google records to see if anyone had knowledg... by autisticcurio on Saturday September 05, 2020 @01:57AM (#24381657)
Do any of you ever think the spooks are engaged in a slow deliberate release of information to employ the concept discussed here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Kii-P7vwQ How easy is it for an intelligence service to inject packets and extract packets from their telecom network to do the real hacking whilst simultaneously trying to find a Patsy?

I really do wonder how many Patsy's have had their ego's exploited and got tricked into doing things so the spooks can control, manipulate, & exploit their targets for their own means.

Think about it, there are so many ways to control people and its been going on for tens of thousands of years when looking at religions putting the fear of god into people who dared to step out of line.

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