Thirty years ago today I made the final gold masters for Monkey Island

Re:Thirty years ago today I made the final gold masters for ... by serf on Friday September 04, 2020 @02:26PM (#24377569)

>Found out a few years later that the drives were defective, and would often (but not always!) have buffer errors when burning discs close to capacity

there was a slew of software hacks in most cd burning suites that'd attempt to deal with that problem across the industry.

believe it or not : time dependent FIFO buffers are capital H Hard. Or at least they were back then.. I suspect the damage done by poorly constructed FIFO buffers now is just more hidden, not exactly lessened.

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Re:Thirty years ago today I made the final gold masters for ... by kevin_thibedeau on Friday September 04, 2020 @02:39PM (#24377668)

I was bulk ripping CDs a few months ago and was running multiple SCSI drives to increase my throughput. The current Linux SCSI drivers will lock up the bus when you insert a disc and ruin any transfers already in progress on another drive. You'd think something like that would have been resolved at this point.

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Re:Thirty years ago today I made the final gold masters for ... by dylan604 on Friday September 04, 2020 @03:46PM (#24378275)

An actual SCSI device? And you're complaining about "by now". How old of hardware are you using? "By now" fixes are included in modern hardware on USB.

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Re:Thirty years ago today I made the final gold masters for ... by kevin_thibedeau on Friday September 04, 2020 @04:41PM (#24378678)

I have a number of Plextor CD-ROM drives that are more desirable than DVD-ROM for CD audio extraction. I have one USB Plextor but they command a high resale price. The point is that basic bus management should be sorted out and it clearly isn't.

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Re:Thirty years ago today I made the final gold masters for ... by BuildTheRobots on Saturday September 05, 2020 @06:18AM (#24382614)

> I have a number of Plextor CD-ROM drives that are more desirable than DVD-ROM for CD audio extraction

If you're pulling a digital bit-stream off a disk then why does the reader matter?

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Re:Thirty years ago today I made the final gold masters for ... by mjg59 on Saturday September 05, 2020 @06:31AM (#24382649)

A lot of CDs aren't in perfect condition, either because of scratches or things like https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_disc_bronzing. When faced with damaged data, the quality of the drive and its firmware will influence whether the data stream corresponds to the original content or not.

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Re:Thirty years ago today I made the final gold masters for ... by BuildTheRobots on Saturday September 05, 2020 @06:39AM (#24382671)

Thanks for the explanation - I misinterpreted the OC to be about audio quality rather than just trying to recover data from damaged media.

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Re:Thirty years ago today I made the final gold masters for ... by mjg59 on Saturday September 05, 2020 @07:08AM (#24382753)

Given a perfect CD the drive is probably not going to have significant impact, but for an audio CD that's been exposed to real world conditions there's a bunch of ways the drive can make a difference to the recovered data.

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Re:Thirty years ago today I made the final gold masters for ... by simonklitj on Friday September 04, 2020 @02:34PM (#24377637)

A little interested! What exactly are FIFO buffers?

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Re:Thirty years ago today I made the final gold masters for ... by mulmen on Friday September 04, 2020 @03:13PM (#24377981)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFO_(computing_and_electron...

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