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Re:Small nuclear reactors: tiny NuScale reactor gets safety ... by acidburnNSA on Thursday September 03, 2020 @03:45PM (#24367999)
There are good permanent disposal methods available. The deep geologic repository under construction in Finland is probably the best example. More info here: https://whataboutthewaste.com

People use "what about the waste" as a reason to not use nuclear. Yet, fossil and renewable biofuel waste is (as mentioned) just dumped into the biosphere where it ends and estimated 8 million lives early per year, according to the WHO.

https://www.who.int/health-topics/air-pollution

Re:Small nuclear reactors: tiny NuScale reactor gets safety ... by godelski on Thursday September 03, 2020 @04:02PM (#24368225)
Not to mention the waste associated with semi-conductors. Long term waste is not just a problem associated with nuclear. It is also worth mentioning that the major waste issues are associated with DoE weapon sites and not as much power sites.

I would also encourage other's to click on acidburnNSA's profile as this is where their expertise lies and they have written extensively (with plenty of links) on the subject.[0]

[0] https://whatisnuclear.com/waste.html

Re:Small nuclear reactors: tiny NuScale reactor gets safety ... by marshray on Thursday September 03, 2020 @03:51PM (#24368087)
That option doesn't exist in the US.

We have no permanent disposal facilities, not even in the planning stage.

https://www.gao.gov/key_issues/disposal_of_highlevel_nuclear...

Re:Small nuclear reactors: tiny NuScale reactor gets safety ... by manfredo on Thursday September 03, 2020 @04:00PM (#24368203)
We do have a permanent disposal facility built, but congress chose to forbid its operation. This is a self inflicted problem: we don't have a permanent disposal facility because we refuse to use the permanent disposal facility we built.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_Mountain_nuclear_waste...

Re:Small nuclear reactors: tiny NuScale reactor gets safety ... by ethbr0 on Thursday September 03, 2020 @04:11PM (#24368323)
FYI, to the ready point, as Wikipedia notes: "The DOE was to begin accepting spent fuel at the Yucca Mountain Repository by January 31, 1998 but did not do so because of a series of delays due to legal challenges, concerns over how to transport nuclear waste to the facility, and political pressures resulting in underfunding of the construction."

The anti-waste-disposal crowd in the environmental movement feels exceedingly disingenuous.

The amount of goal post moving they've engaged in over the decades makes it clear that their actual goals are to prevent any waste disposal site from being constructed, rather than specific, actionable complaints.

Which is insane, from a net-benefit perspective, as the alternative is to leave nuclear waste dispersed around the country, closer to population centers.

Re:Small nuclear reactors: tiny NuScale reactor gets safety ... by trothamel on Thursday September 03, 2020 @03:59PM (#24368196)
https://www.wipp.energy.gov/ is one, though that's for government rather than commercial waste.

It's a matter of political will at this point.

Re:Small nuclear reactors: tiny NuScale reactor gets safety ... by ethbr0 on Thursday September 03, 2020 @04:22PM (#24368455)
The 2012 Blue Ribbon Commission on America's Nuclear Future report [1] literally said that:

"Ensuring access to dedicated funding – Current federal budget rules and laws make it impossible for the nuclear waste program to have assured access to the fees being collected from nuclear utilities and ratepayers to finance the commercial share of the waste program’s expenses.

We have recommended a partial remedy that should be implemented promptly by the Administration, working with the relevant congressional committees and the Congressional Budget Office. A long-term remedy requires legislation to provide access to the Nuclear Waste Fund and fees independent of the annual appropriations process but subject to rigorous independent financial and managerial oversight."

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20120807061024/http://brc.gov/si...

Re:Small nuclear reactors: tiny NuScale reactor gets safety ... by e12e on Thursday September 03, 2020 @03:50PM (#24368071)
Unfortunately that doesn't quite solve the problem of getting waste from reactor to storage site.
Re:Small nuclear reactors: tiny NuScale reactor gets safety ... by manfredo on Thursday September 03, 2020 @04:02PM (#24368235)
Getting the waste to a storage facility is very easy. You put it on a semi trailer and move it to the storage site: http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2015/ph241/avery-w2/images...

Nuclear waste is radioactive, but not so radioactive that it's unsafe to stand next to a container. Most waste is stored on site.

It actually doesn't make sense to move nuclear waste to permanent storage because some reactor designs can use this waste as fuel.

Re:Small nuclear reactors: tiny NuScale reactor gets safety ... by dodobirdlord on Thursday September 03, 2020 @03:59PM (#24368198)
It’s not really much of a problem. You leave the waste in a cooling pond at the plant for a couple of decades while you wait for all the really threatening stuff to decay, and then drive it where it needs to go in a truck. It’s a bunch of big metal rods in canisters. It can’t really “spill” and if it does you just pick it up and put it back in the truck. Uranium and plutonium are really not very threatening to human life.
Re:Small nuclear reactors: tiny NuScale reactor gets safety ... by liability on Thursday September 03, 2020 @04:00PM (#24368212)
Besides the obvious NIMBY problems, are there any problems with sealed casks transported by train?
Re:Small nuclear reactors: tiny NuScale reactor gets safety ... by cogman10 on Thursday September 03, 2020 @04:44PM (#24368675)
No. These things are tested to a VERY high standard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mHtOW-OBO4