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Re:Modernizing the OpenBSD Console by Aloha on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @12:33AM (#24338589)
am I the only one who prefers a non-framebuffer console?
Re:Modernizing the OpenBSD Console by ansible on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @04:00AM (#24339529)
I hate the framebuffer console on most of the systems I have.

In some cases, the font is way too small. Changing the font size is confusing, because it isn't clear what size of text you will end up with.

And on some of the systems I have, the framebuffer scrolls so slow!!!!! Drives me up a wall. If it takes more than a tiny fraction of a second to display an entire screen of text, that is too slow!!!! Hate it, hate it, hate it.

Re:Modernizing the OpenBSD Console by icedchai on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @12:25PM (#24343498)
Sun workstation framebuffer consoles were like this. Slow scrolling! I'm thinking mainly of Sun-3's and early SparcStations...
Re:Modernizing the OpenBSD Console by Aloha on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @01:14PM (#24344112)
even on an Ultra 5 I had, it was slow.
Re:Modernizing the OpenBSD Console by icedchai on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @03:24PM (#24345861)
Now that I think of it, I have an Ultra 10 rotting in my basement. I haven't turned it on in over 15 years now.
Re:Modernizing the OpenBSD Console by throwaway2048 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @01:24AM (#24338815)
Its not even an option on newer UEFI machines, all consoles are a framebuffer.
Re:Modernizing the OpenBSD Console by Aloha on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @02:19AM (#24339042)
Let me rephrase, I don't want a huge screen with tiny fonts for my console, the default should be at most 132x48
Re:Modernizing the OpenBSD Console by rvense on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @02:36AM (#24339115)
Isn't that exactly what this patch addresses? Updating the framebuffer console so it's not horrible on modern framebuffers.
Re:Modernizing the OpenBSD Console by Aloha on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @01:13PM (#24344100)
the OS/Distro should chose sensible options out of the box, they usually do not.
Re:Modernizing the OpenBSD Console by unixhero on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @02:14AM (#24339023)
Interesting, I didn't know that. Thanks!
Re:Modernizing the OpenBSD Console by kjs3 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @02:15AM (#24339029)
Not the only one, but one of the few.

glances at the VT-320 hooked to the OBSD firewalls

Re:Modernizing the OpenBSD Console by Aloha on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @02:18AM (#24339037)
I have a WY-185 sitting around, I feel like I should set it up again, on a terminal server maybe
Re:Modernizing the OpenBSD Console by kjs3 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @02:49AM (#24339161)
It's a moral imperative. :-)
Re:Modernizing the OpenBSD Console by rbanffy on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @08:10AM (#24340907)
An elegant tool for a more civilized age.
Re:Modernizing the OpenBSD Console by Aloha on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @01:12PM (#24344093)
its also alot of effort and consumes more of my limited desk space ;-)
Re:Modernizing the OpenBSD Console by rbanffy on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @01:48PM (#24355762)
What is desktop space compared to having a proper console? Do it!

I'm personally after a small HP terminal that was nicknamed the "munchkin" for its diminutive size. My chances of finding one that can be shipped here are slim, but from the US you could have a better chance.

Re:Modernizing the OpenBSD Console by JdeBP on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @04:25AM (#24339625)
Almost certainly not, but on the other hand there are people who conversely enjoy proper boldface and italics, as Unix text processing tools encompassed pretty much from the get-go; or more than 256 different glyphs in use at once, with none of that faffing about with loadable Unicode-to-8-bit character maps; or MouseText. (-: