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Re:Why Understanding Beats Knowledge by est on Saturday August 29, 2020 @11:52AM (#24316928)
> the derivative (tangent) of the minimum (lowest point) of any curve is zero (horizontal). > holding their pencil up to it at the lowest point and laying it along, and discovering that, sure enough, the tangent is horizontal.

Any gifs showing that? just really curious and can't picture that in my head.

Re:Why Understanding Beats Knowledge by thedirt0115 on Saturday August 29, 2020 @01:51PM (#24317995)
Here is a GIF demonstrating the tangent line as a point traverses a curve: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/courses-images/wp-content...

The "pencil" (the short line representing the tangent) is green when positive, black when zero, and red when negative. Note that when it is black/zero, the "pencil" line is flat. This occurs at both local maxima and minima.

Re:Why Understanding Beats Knowledge by jldugger on Saturday August 29, 2020 @12:34PM (#24317283)
Lets use the letter U as your curve: U

One way to imagine the the horizontal tangent is that it's where the curve stops going down (negative slope) and starts going up (positive slope). Well, that is also basically the definition of a local minima, and one of those minima is also the global minima.

Re:Why Understanding Beats Knowledge by piinbinary on Saturday August 29, 2020 @12:06PM (#24317062)
Try holding your mouse* upside-down on the surface of your desk to get the same effect. The point at which the mouse meets the desk will always be the point where the tangent of the curve is horizontal.

*Assuming your mouse is curved on top.

Re:Why Understanding Beats Knowledge by imheretolearn on Saturday August 29, 2020 @12:42PM (#24317353)
This was my "ah-ha" moment as well. I always knew that derivative of the lowest point is 0 but I didn't really understand what it meant. Take any arbitrary curve. Tangent is a line that touches a single point on the curve. Draw a tangent aka pencil touching the lowest point of the curve. It's derivative ie dy/dx apply the formulae to the curve's formulae. It will always be 0 which means it will have no "slope" ie parallel to the x axis
Re:Why Understanding Beats Knowledge by marcosdumay on Saturday August 29, 2020 @12:42PM (#24317349)
If the curve was inclined at that point, it would have to be lower either on the left or the right of it.

Just draw any curve in a piece of paper, you'll see it happening.

Re:Why Understanding Beats Knowledge by rexer on Saturday August 29, 2020 @12:13PM (#24317118)
It might help to think of a specific curve. An example would be a simple parabola: f(x) = x^2. At the bottom of the curve (x = 0), the slope (aka tangent, aka derivative) is 0, or a horizontal line.