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Re:Ethereum Is a Dark Forest by koonsolo on Friday August 28, 2020 @06:12PM (#24310760)
You would think, but in all scammer cases that I heard, they are able to get their money out.

I really don't get it, because I have to provide my ID every year or so for verification. I really don't get how these scammer can get away with that, but obviously every time.

Re:Ethereum Is a Dark Forest by novok on Friday August 28, 2020 @07:13PM (#24311471)
Its easy to get fake ids that look very real (ask a local 20 year old).

Also you often do not even need to take a picture of an ID to open an account online, just have the info of an identity that you steal. After that, you get an atm card, wear a covid mask, shades and hat, call to raise the limit and take it out asap.

Re:Ethereum Is a Dark Forest by boring_twenties on Friday August 28, 2020 @09:54PM (#24312609)
Which banks allow non-trivial ATM withdraw limits?

My experience with 4 different banks:

1. Limit of $500 cannot be changed

2. Limit raised to $1,100 over the phone; apparently if I show up at a branch and bring my first born, I can get it as high as $1,500.

3. Limit of $500 suddenly reduced to $200 (!) with the option to call in and raise it to $400.

4. Limit raised to $2,000. Some years later, suddenly reduced to $1,000. Haven't bothered looking into this yet.

Re:Ethereum Is a Dark Forest by siberianbear on Friday August 28, 2020 @11:12PM (#24313057)
Fidelity Investments brokerage and cash management accounts have a limit of $1000 a day, and I have four of them, so I can get $4000.

I recently learned that some Chase Bank ATMs inside branches used with Chase ATM cards can get $3000 in one transaction. I did it the first time a few days ago.

Re:Ethereum Is a Dark Forest by boring_twenties on Friday August 28, 2020 @11:28PM (#24313151)
Good to know, thanks. Fidelity is actually my example #1. I've been told multiple times on the phone it can't be changed from $500, but that was years ago. Will try again.

Back to the topic, we're up to $3-4k now which is more than I thought, but still not enough to pull off this $12k scam.

Re:Ethereum Is a Dark Forest by siberianbear on Saturday August 29, 2020 @03:17PM (#24318709)
Fidelity outsources their debit card servicing. A Fidelity rep told me that the cap is set per customer, and the withdrawal limit is set depending on the account balance and history with that customer. They told me that I could request a higher withdrawal limit if I wished to do so, and they may or may not approve it.
Re:Ethereum Is a Dark Forest by boring_twenties on Sunday August 30, 2020 @02:01AM (#24321667)
Interesting, I didn't think it was per-customer. At the time these conversations happened, I had plenty of money, most of it in my Fidelity account.

They could have saved a lot of money on ATM fees (which they always refund me) by increasing my limit, that's for sure.

Re:Ethereum Is a Dark Forest by lowdose on Friday August 28, 2020 @11:27PM (#24313144)
Any particular reason you need so much cash on hand?
Re:Ethereum Is a Dark Forest by boring_twenties on Friday August 28, 2020 @11:31PM (#24313169)
You never know when a good poker game will break out.
Re:Ethereum Is a Dark Forest by siberianbear on Saturday August 29, 2020 @03:15PM (#24318692)
I travel a lot, and sometimes often to "emerging economies". Cash is always king, especially when your American bank puts yet another suspected fraud alert on your card...
Re:Ethereum Is a Dark Forest by bartvk on Saturday August 29, 2020 @10:29AM (#24316342)
What comes to my mind, is when you buy a boat or a motor second hand.
Re:Ethereum Is a Dark Forest by novok on Saturday August 29, 2020 @10:27PM (#24320870)
Rich people banks, like schwab.
Re:Ethereum Is a Dark Forest by jetzzz on Saturday August 29, 2020 @07:12AM (#24315277)
They can use an account registered for a homeless person who has happily provided an ID in exchange for a small amount of money.
Re:Ethereum Is a Dark Forest by cutemonster on Saturday August 29, 2020 @02:12PM (#24318173)
What's the next step, after the stolen money has landed in the homeless persons account?