Re:One Year with ThinkPad and Linux (From MacBook Pro)
by alexktz on Friday August 28, 2020 @12:26PM
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They don't? I just ran Cinebench R20 and Unigine Heaven benchmark plugged and unplugged (10x each) and got the same scores each time.
This is the 16" MBP with the 5600m with HBM2 memory.
Re:One Year with ThinkPad and Linux (From MacBook Pro)
by numpad0 on Friday August 28, 2020 @01:39PM
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The issue is not repeatability but the fact that cooling is inadequate for the TDP, and CPU (reportedly?) runs in thermal throttled modes.
Armchairers' consensus is Apple botched design and CPU is overheating. Idk. Maybe it's intended design as a form of cTDP.
Re:One Year with ThinkPad and Linux (From MacBook Pro)
by falcolas on Friday August 28, 2020 @12:37PM
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You'll get the same performance, but you'll see a decline in the battery charge when really putting the hardware to the test. I've seen it happen just using a Google Hangout.
Modern macbooks can ship with a 40 or 60 amp power supply, whereas they should have 90 or 120 amp power supplies. They assume, mostly correctly, that the really intensive workloads will complete before the internal battery is in trouble.
Re:One Year with ThinkPad and Linux (From MacBook Pro)
by jdminhbg on Friday August 28, 2020 @12:45PM
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> You'll get the same performance, but you'll see a decline in the battery charge
Right, but the initial problem was that full performance wasn't even possible from the battery, regardless of how much charge you were willing to sacrifice.
I've had lots of silly issues with bluetooth, wifi and other things not quite "just working" lately on my 2017 MBP. Don't get me started on the keyboard situation. Apple's standards have been slipping on that front. But they are undeniably still very good laptops overall. If it wasn't for the weird keyboards, they'd make pretty decent linux laptops too. As it is, the touchbar is a PITA for that, even if you do manage to get that working (apparently it is doable).
I actually wouldn't mind a linux laptop except that seems to involve a lot of compromises on form factor, sucky touchpads, plasticky/fugly designs, screen resolution, driver compatibility, and manufacturers with not so great reputations on the quality and support front. Apple is also problematic for support lately of course.
I recently bought a new camera and the ability to take the usb-c power cable and plug that into the camera to quickly transfer some photos is quite nice. I don't really miss the memory card slot that much. I also charge my phone of my laptop via usb-c when on the road. I once watched 8 hours of offline netflix on my phone on a transatlantic flight and left the plane with a full charge on my phone and 80% charge on my mac.
I've been considering a linux laptop for ages but there are not a lot of models that meet my requirements of having a form factor that isn't hideously ugly (no "gaming" laptops please), has decent specs for CPU, memory, ssd (this eliminates 98% of the market), an hdpi screen (now we are talking 2, maybe 3 models), and a touchpad that comes reasonably close to what I'm used to. There are not a lot of things in the market that come close enough that I would consider them and none that I'm aware off that don't involve compromising on at least a few things I care about.