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Re:Safari adopts the Chrome/Firefox extension model by hombre_fatal on Friday August 28, 2020 @04:42AM (#24302685)
It's actually pretty good and gets you 95% of the way there with a static blocker API that doesn't give any privileges to the ad-blocker, and that's a big deal.

If you really think something like https://1blocker.com/ is a "turd", then you must be hung up on something rather inconsequential to most people.

Re:Safari adopts the Chrome/Firefox extension model by m0xte on Friday August 28, 2020 @04:49AM (#24302731)
95% probably isn’t good enough.

1blocker is fairly awful I find and rather expensive because you’re a captive audience that doesn’t have access to working uBlock.

This situation is one of several reasons I recently dumped macOS and went back to windows and am using edge and doing all my unixy stuff in VMs.

Re:Safari adopts the Chrome/Firefox extension model by hombre_fatal on Friday August 28, 2020 @07:02AM (#24303470)
95% is good enough to the vast majority of people.

To get 100%, you use NoScript or turn Javascript off. Not many HNers even go that far.

You don't have to use 1blocker, it's just an example of a well-crafted solution that has made it so I haven't seen an ad since I started using it. There are free solutions.

The point is that you need to temper "ugh $thing is a turd!" when you're talking about fringe expectations, else you're completely disconnected from the conversation everyone else is having.

You could call uBlock Origin a "turd" for its privacy violation of having access to every website you visit and request you make, but that's not a good way to have that conversation, either.

Sounds like there was more to your decision than this situation though. Chrome + uBlock work fine on macOS.

Re:Safari adopts the Chrome/Firefox extension model by _qulr on Friday August 28, 2020 @07:59AM (#24303822)
> The point is that you need to temper "ugh $thing is a turd!" when you're talking about fringe expectations

I wouldn't call it a fringe expectation. uBlock Origin in safariextz format was quite popular for Safari, until Safari 13 removed all support for it.

As a result, many users were forced to move from something that worked very well for them to something that didn't work as well. Nobody likes to be forced to adopt something worse. Imposing the "power user" vs. "normal user" dichotomy here is not an accurate story of the history of Safari extensions.

Re:Safari adopts the Chrome/Firefox extension model by gabrielsroka on Friday August 28, 2020 @10:11AM (#24305042)
I run Brave on Android with scripts blocked. It's such a joy. It blocks most ads and even allows allows you to read articles that otherwise would require payment. I'm not exactly saying it bypasses paywalls, though.

If I browse the same sites on Chrome for Windows my CPU goes to 100%. It's awful.

Re:Safari adopts the Chrome/Firefox extension model by ballenf on Friday August 28, 2020 @11:42AM (#24306180)
I don't understand why you'd dump an OS over limitations of its default browser. Edge even has a MacOS version if that's your browser of choice.
Re:Safari adopts the Chrome/Firefox extension model by m0xte on Friday August 28, 2020 @12:38PM (#24306913)
More than that. General direction was negative. They’re removing kernel extensions (bye bye corp vpn), terrible historical direction on browser extensions, bugs galore, crazy expensive hardware. I’m done.