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Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by cfcosta on Thursday August 27, 2020 @06:55PM (#24299584)
I'm not a native speaker, and searching on urban dictionary I could not find anything. What's the problem with the name?
Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by calahad on Thursday August 27, 2020 @07:21PM (#24299788)
I'm a native English speaker and I didn't get what their problem with it was either. I've never heard anyone voice such an objection to using the word outside of this thread. Bizarre reasoning imo.
Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by finnegandewitt on Thursday August 27, 2020 @07:01PM (#24299632)
Because it sounds like rape
Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by agustif on Thursday August 27, 2020 @07:07PM (#24299680)
The problem with this kind of slippery-slope way into self-censorhip, is that similarities are (n) an almost infinite possibility in most languages. more so having in mind you're going from french to english.

Same way of thinking got GitHub to try and replace master, for something else like mercurial's main. Having master in the context nothing to do with slavery.

I get someone might be sensible to some words, but I don't see why someone else should keep a list of possible -not good- works declared and updated by the mob mafia of twitter and social media.

Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by carrolldunham on Thursday August 27, 2020 @07:14PM (#24299736)
Come on man. Are you really going to call your product Poup and say "b-but it's french for Doll". It's not a political thing it's just the way the word rings in current English is bad. Jokes have been being made about "rapier wit" etc. for 50 years.
Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by trav4225 on Thursday August 27, 2020 @08:15PM (#24300147)
No offense intended to you at all, but "the way the word rings in current English" seems super subjective. Personally, the notion of "rape" never even occurred to me when I heard this name.

Incidentally, unlike "rapier", words like "raptor" and "rapture" are directly related to the word "rape". These words can be clearly traced back to ancient Greek (meaning something like 'to seize violently'), and perhaps beyond.

Just my $0.02. :-)

Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by hoseja on Friday August 28, 2020 @02:21AM (#24301886)
I don't think most people associate oil crops with physics engines.
Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by Mirioron on Thursday August 27, 2020 @11:28PM (#24301098)
Wow. Until this comment I couldn't see it. Isn't "rapier" (the sword) pronounced differently though?
Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by leephillips on Thursday August 27, 2020 @07:58PM (#24300040)
Don’t tell him about rapeseed.
Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by nkozyra on Thursday August 27, 2020 @09:44PM (#24300598)
Well he might know it better as canola oil, which is the "rebranding" it received for precisely the same reason. So I'm not certain that's the intended point.
Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by thih9 on Friday August 28, 2020 @04:19AM (#24302548)
> canola oil, which is the "rebranding" it received for precisely the same reason

Do you have a source? Wikipedia lists a different reason, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canola_oil:

> The change in name serves to distinguish it from natural rapeseed oil, which has much higher erucic acid content.

Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by leephillips on Thursday August 27, 2020 @10:21PM (#24300788)
(1) A seed was rebranded as an oil?

(2) Not really; the nomenclature and its history is more interesting than that.

(3) The seed is still called rapeseed.

(4) Why was that not the intended point?

Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by nkozyra on Friday August 28, 2020 @05:34AM (#24303013)
1) the corresponding oil - which (unlike the seed) is actually commonly used/referenced thing in English - was

2) it played a role [https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1989-10-12-890122...]

3) the sword is still called rapier

4) because it doesn't serve as a logical foil for aforementioned reasons. If anything it just shows a nice analogous response.

Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by meheleventyone on Friday August 28, 2020 @07:09AM (#24303511)
Oh give over that article says nothing about it being named Canola because of the word rapeseed containing the word rape. The earlier assumption about the naming of Canola oil is just incorrect.
Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by nkozyra on Friday August 28, 2020 @08:50AM (#24304221)
Well logically it makes sense, branding things with "rape," which is not a commonly known name is not . And there are other articles that support it:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/22/canada-tisdale....

There obviously could have been myriad reasons. Also, Aldi ran into a similar issue with rape:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/25/aldi-forced-to-c...

Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by jbay808 on Thursday August 27, 2020 @07:04PM (#24299660)
Some other words we could stop using for the same reason:

Rope, rap, rapper, crepe, paper, wrapper, rapid...

Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by JabavuAdams on Thursday August 27, 2020 @08:12PM (#24300126)
None of these are good examples. It's not the spelling. It's the pronunciation to native English speakers. "Rapey".

There's no point getting on a high horse about people being adults, etc. Marketing and advertising empirically work, and not because people are stupid. A lot of time and money is spent thinking up good names and trying to avoid names with embarassing connotations.

If a bunch of native English speakers are telling you that the name sounds bad to native English speakers, then it's worth at least considering rather than dismissing.

EDIT> Reminds me of Rational Rose .petal files.

Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by chriswitts on Friday August 28, 2020 @03:31AM (#24302301)
As a native English speaker I can attest that we sure as shit don't pronounce it "Rapey".
Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by JabavuAdams on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @05:58PM (#24347611)
Consider the argument: "Tastier" doesn't bring to mind any associations with "Tasty" because we don't pronounce "Tastier" as "Tasty". Bad argument, right?

Also, why am I wasting time responding? But it is fascinating the extents to which people seem to almost purposefully misunderstand each other online. I sometimes like to explore the space I guess.

Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by cfcosta on Thursday August 27, 2020 @07:06PM (#24299679)
Isn't rapier a french word, and pronounced as such?
Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by kevin_thibedeau on Thursday August 27, 2020 @07:35PM (#24299895)
French, yes. Pronounced according to academie rules, no.
Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by finnegandewitt on Thursday August 27, 2020 @07:15PM (#24299748)
Ok just to clear things up for the repliers, what I should’ve said was that the first part of this word being rape is unfortunate, but not a big deal. It’s fine as a name, but not what I would go with. Like how Uranus is a fine name, but not what I would name it if I was the official namer of planets.
Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by mhh__ on Thursday August 27, 2020 @07:42PM (#24299943)
> Uranus

Ignoring that it's usually pronounced Uran-us rather than Ur-anus, really? I spend a lot of time around physicists and astrophysicists and I think you can probably guess how much of an issue this is (or for any adults)

Re:The Rapier Physics Engine by mellow2020 on Friday August 28, 2020 @12:04AM (#24301247)
Maybe to people who made "rapey" part of their vocabulary because of internet "humor".