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Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by vbezhenar on Thursday August 27, 2020 @04:27PM (#24298252)
EU prices are ridiculous. I paid 2.9 eurocents per kWh last month in Kazakhstan. We just burn coal, AFAIK.
Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by qayxc on Thursday August 27, 2020 @08:28PM (#24300236)
Keep in mind that the average income in Germany is about 5x higher than in Kazakhstan, the grid is much bigger and most of the price is taxes.

The actual price (before taxes) is less than 9ct/kWh (about 7.6ct/kWh to be precise - including profits, btw.) and that's what industrial customers pay.

edit: I tried to find some figures to seejust how much bigger the German grid is compared to Kazakhstan and it's mind boggling. 25000 km in Kazakhstan vs 135000 km of just high voltage- and supergrid in Germany. Germany's grid is 1.8 million km versus 25 thousand km in Kazakhstan [1] [2]. Different worlds.

[1] http://www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/energy/se/pp/eneff/9th__F... page 4

[2] https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=auto&tl=en&u=h...

Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by hannasanarion on Thursday August 27, 2020 @04:29PM (#24298278)
The premium probably comes largely from labor costs. US electricity is similarly expensive, averaging 0.12USD/kwh.
Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by qayxc on Thursday August 27, 2020 @08:21PM (#24300181)
Nope. The premium comes from taxes and surcharges.

Industrial customers pay <0.09€/kWh.