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Re:The potentially revolutionary Celera 500L aircraft by jacobwilliamroy on Thursday August 27, 2020 @01:31AM (#24290423)
Because COVID has completely rejiggered the economy. Airlines legally are not allowed to pack hundreds of people into a cramped cabin. They're selling fewer tickets at lower prices, and they were already losing money on poor passengers to begin with.

Plus, the oil crash is still coming. Fracking has delayed it for a short time, and the covid lockdowns also have slowed consumption, but it is still inevitable. Before fracking, the U.S. army expected peak oil to happen sometime around 2015. Keep in mind, fracking is less efficient than old methods of oil extraction, and produces fewer barrels for the same amount of energy, and the energy for that extraction process comes from... oil. So we're burning the house down from both ends. Airlines don't stand a chance, in their current form.

Re:The potentially revolutionary Celera 500L aircraft by EricE on Thursday August 27, 2020 @10:51AM (#24294236)
Peak Oil? Banging that drum again? This must be at least the 7th major iteration of it.

For all that expense with fracking it still beats the snot out of solar and wind. Until we get over the hysteria around nuclear fossil fuels are going nowhere.

A real game changer could be a discovery in electrical energy storage. Even out the peaks from solar/wind. Solid chemical batteries aren't doing it - there's some cool stuff going on with liquid electrolyte batteries in Australia but I don't think the capacities or efficiencies of them can still beat out fossil fuels.

Re:The potentially revolutionary Celera 500L aircraft by jacobwilliamroy on Thursday August 27, 2020 @02:50PM (#24297172)
Fossil fuels are going into the atmosphere, and they dont come back. I had no idea hn was so delusional about energy.
Re:The potentially revolutionary Celera 500L aircraft by sirk1882 on Thursday August 27, 2020 @01:37AM (#24290460)
Which is why companies like this are going to be doing what Musk is doing with Electric vehicles.

Now, if they could make these for 2000-3000km flights and they ran on 250kWh to 350kWh electric they'd be what the future entails. Especially if they weren't piloted and were fully automated.

Re:The potentially revolutionary Celera 500L aircraft by ppf on Thursday August 27, 2020 @04:47AM (#24291415)
Removing your energy source (fossil fuel) and replacing with energy storage doesn't fix anything - where does the energy to fill that storage come from? In some hypothetical future where renewable energy is very cheap, it will still be more efficient to use that energy to produce liquid fuel for planes.
Re:The potentially revolutionary Celera 500L aircraft by sirk1882 on Thursday August 27, 2020 @07:05PM (#24299668)
ITER. Tritium breeding reactors by feeding it recycled lithium.
Re:The potentially revolutionary Celera 500L aircraft by ppf on Friday August 28, 2020 @01:48AM (#24301718)
Exactly. IMHO nuclear is the only way, if we go down this path. And if we do that, then we mostly don't need to bother with wind/solar/grid storage.
Re:The potentially revolutionary Celera 500L aircraft by jacobwilliamroy on Thursday August 27, 2020 @01:39AM (#24290467)
Did you hear what I said about COVID? Also your imaginary battery that doesn't exist, is imaginary, and doesn't exist. Unless you want to fly around on a nuke.

And can we stop giving elon musk credit for everything? Tesla employs 48,000 people and contracts god only knows how many. It's pretty clear that elon musk is stealing credit for everyone's work, and Im sure the rest of the company physically cringes whenever people say stuff like "Elon is doing great stuff with batteries"

Re:The potentially revolutionary Celera 500L aircraft by sirk1882 on Thursday August 27, 2020 @07:05PM (#24299663)
Eh, kleenex, scotties, brand name recognition is a trite point.

And when it comes to EV batteries, Tesla is leading the field. 21700 batteries are a smart improvement over 18650 cells.

And I'll happily give the engineers at Tesla credit. However, realistically speaking they should be branching out and applying the same technology elsewhere. Especially in regard to hybrid vehicles.

It's not an either/or situation. We can eat our cake and drive it halfway too.