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Re:How the Sacklers shifted $10.8B of an opioid fortune buil... by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @09:27AM (#24282244)
> If we had a justice system, that $10.8 billion would be recoverable

We’re in the midst of a series of lawsuits and criminal probes seeking to do exactly that. When public pressure rushes prosecutors, we get nonsense like Arizona getting rejected for original jurisdiction by SCOTUS.

We have due process. Not mob rule.

Re:How the Sacklers shifted $10.8B of an opioid fortune buil... by cultus on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @09:32AM (#24282278)
Much of the money is diffucult to recover by being tied up in byzantine arrangements of LLCs and overseas accounts. That's generally how the rich avoid paying taxes as well.

We have due process for the privileged. Tell all of the poor defendants who have been held in Rikers for over a year without a trial that they have due process.

Re:How the Sacklers shifted $10.8B of an opioid fortune buil... by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @09:42AM (#24282348)
> Much of the money is diffucult to recover by being tied up in byzantine arrangements of LLCs and overseas accounts

Yet this reporter was able to assemble the trail from court documents.

For every person creating Byzantine structures there are several adept at untangling them.

> Tell all of the poor defendants who have been held in Rikers for over a year without a trial

Not arguing that they aren’t getting an advantage. Just that there is zero evidence so far that they’re going to get away with it.

Also, New York has abolished cash bail. If someone is in pre-trial detention, it’s because they were deemed to be a flight risk. Not because they couldn’t afford bail. (EDIT: Never mind, we rolled back most of the changes in April after a purported crime surge)

Re:How the Sacklers shifted $10.8B of an opioid fortune buil... by stefan_ on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @09:57AM (#24282503)
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It's hard to make a case for something being prosecuted in good faith if there is never any attempt at using the tools that are otherwise so vastly abused in prosecuting the most meaningless "crimes".

Re:How the Sacklers shifted $10.8B of an opioid fortune buil... by stallmanite on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @01:04PM (#24284487)
Very good point. People suspected of far less serious crimes based on far more tenuous “evidence” get their door kicked in, their kids rooms flashbanged, dogs shot, etc.
Re:How the Sacklers shifted $10.8B of an opioid fortune buil... by Frondo on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @10:22AM (#24282719)
New York has not eliminated cash bail.

https://www.google.com/search?q=new+york+cash+bail

Re:How the Sacklers shifted $10.8B of an opioid fortune buil... by anm89 on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @11:22AM (#24283259)
Ok so maybe improve the laws instead of burning down the entire legal system? I mean even if you want to burn down the entire legal system you are never going to get that without a very bloody revolution.
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Re:How the Sacklers shifted $10.8B of an opioid fortune buil... by edgyquant on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @10:42AM (#24282913)
Both of those predate the abolition of slavery