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Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by kevin_thibedeau on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @12:31PM (#24273098)
I often wonder who's going to buy all of the boomers valuable stuff when they are gone.
Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by steverb on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @01:00PM (#24273430)
Based on the attempts of my parents and my in-laws to give my wife and I "valuable stuff", either it's going to goodwill now, or it is sitting unused and unloved in a garage.

We cannot seem to get it through our parent's heads that we don't want any valuable antiques that will need to be taken care of and the fact that it belonged to great-great-aunt Thelma who none of us have ever met or heard of except in connection to this roll top desk does not give the desk in question sentimental value.

Hopefully it goes to someone who will actually appreciate it and enjoy it, but that someone is neither of us.

Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by zeveb on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @02:19PM (#24274302)
As a counterpoint, I really enjoy all the family heirlooms I have inherited; I love that I get to honour those distant, barely-remembered or unremembered family members by enjoying the items I have inherited. I don't look at taking care of those items as a chore any more than I look at taking care of the items I have bought as a chore. And I use them: I eat off of the plates, I sleep in the bed, I use the table, the pictures grace my walls.
Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by buzzert on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @01:33PM (#24273800)
I never understood the appeal of china or any of these antiques. I think they just look terrible. Glad to see in this thread that it’s not just me, but my entire generation.
Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by steverb on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @02:03PM (#24274110)
I'm probably from an older generation than you (GenX), but the wife and I have four kids and we decided a long time ago that we didn't want them to grow up in a museum where they weren't allowed to touch things, play with things, or to have accidents. In the near future when the (presumed) grandkids start coming over we will keep the same standard.

We also have the same furniture that we bought 20 years ago as we could afford it. It is all scratched, dented, frayed and worn. It has contributed itself to a lot of living, which is what we think possessions should do. We want to own our things, not the other way around.

Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by wink on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @07:54AM (#24281575)
I think that's a good point.

My parents bought reasonable sturdy hardwood furniture (In the early 70s I think) and apart from a few replacements it's still in use, having survived moving twice. I'm glad I was never told to not just "live" there, using it.

My own flat is very different, we bought most of the furniture while I was still a student and my wife was starting her first job, so of course there's a lot of IKEA and other not so expensive stuff, but to be honest... even after 10 years now I don't feel the need to replace a lot, my desk doesn't look too good but everything else looks pretty ok or even brand new, so maybe disposable stuff is sturdy enough for a good chunk of people? We haven't moved and I heard IKEA stuff often won't survive a 2nd move, so that might be another thing.

Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by throwaway0a5e on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @05:55PM (#24276635)
I pretty much outfitted my entire house with antiques other people were giving away. As a history buff it's cool to know that 30-100+yr ago someone did exactly what I'm doing but pretty much everything I have bears wear from it's age and if I had to be worried about treating it right that would suck all the fun out.
Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by zeveb on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @02:27PM (#24274396)
> I never understood the appeal of china or any of these antiques. I think they just look terrible.

It depends. Surely some styles are not wonderful, but others are quite beautiful. Some styles are very of their time (and look horrible later), while others are timeless.

I like the timeless stuff. Lenox Federal china will never, ever look bad. Chantilly, Fairfax or Strasbourg silverware will always have a place at a table. A good Baccarat or Waterford crystal will always sparkle. Sure, one could go for 2020-trendy, but in 2025 or 2030 it will look old & crusty — but the classic never grow stale.

Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by pontifk8r on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @03:49PM (#24275286)
Complete sets of reasonable fancy china can be cheaper at a thrift shop than buying a few every day place settings at crate & barrel. Eat on fancy china every day, put it in the dish washer. When you tire of it, dispose of it (thrift shop again, or throw away).
Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by beamatronic on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @01:17PM (#24273620)
It makes you wonder why they valued this stuff so much in the first place.
Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by kevin_thibedeau on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @02:12PM (#24274235)
The first wave of beneficiaries of the industrial revolution were able to display status with mass produced "luxury" goods that were barely affordable and needed to be reserved from every day use. These attitudes carried on through their children and grandchildren.
Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by tonyedgecombe on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @03:54PM (#24275361)
It's not even that long ago, when my wife and I bought a house it took a couple of years before we had furnished it. My son filled his flat in a day at Ikea.

It's less valuable to people because it is so easily available.

Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by throwaway0a5e on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @06:07PM (#24276778)
And that's a good thing. Compare how the poors lived in 1950-1970 vs today. How many project apartments or leaky rural shacks you think you'd have to combine to get one household worth of (fully functional) furniture and appliances? Cheap furniture, window A/C units that cost about a day's labor. Not that they don't have problems but the cost decreases that have enabled the middle to treat things as disposable has very much enabled the less fortunate to greatly increase their standard of living.
Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by 082349872349872 on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @01:24PM (#24273707)
Aristippus, at least, wasn't into roll top desks: "children ought to be provided with property and resources of a kind that could swim with them even out of a shipwreck."

https://www.maa.org/sites/default/files/images/upload_librar...

Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by RandomBacon on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @02:24PM (#24274369)
Cryptocurrency to the rescue! (sarcasm... kind of)

I've always loved the idea of being nimble, but I equally love the idea of having a family estate.

Hopefully my future children will be diversified with both options.

Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by me_me_me on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @01:22PM (#24273682)
It belonged to great-great-aunt Thelma, what is there more to explain!
Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by imglorp on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @12:39PM (#24273186)
There's a glut of vintage silverware and china right now. Things treasured and guarded by the last generation sit unused in a cabinet if lucky, or consignment or Goodwill if less lucky. I think many couples inherit several sets from their parents and now don't know what to do with them.

I guess you could use it every day and enjoy the quality, but even then you don't want your kids bashing on it.

Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by Nasrudith on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @02:40PM (#24274541)
I think they became worthless ironically because they were so treasured. Previously the good China may have had some special occasion remembered, some social importance where they would be brought out. Being so guarded they were never used and took up space and thus never acquired any memories for the newer generations, just being a social cargo cult tautology of valued because they were valued.

Toys in the original unopened box may be worth more but that isn't why there was demand for them in the first place. Unless there is some sort of hilarious misprint, defect, or very questionable concept (accidentally looking very sexual, looking like a reference to some notorious event) thaf makes it a curiosity in itself, the toys were valued because of their use.

Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by zucked on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @01:43PM (#24273899)
I have a set of both - China and Silverware. I've never used either.

I believe the older generation wants us to have their fancy heirlooms - 12 piece dining room sets, silverware, china, their most giant gaudy antique armoire.

Converelsy, what I have tried to instill in my parents as they downsize their belongings is that I want the practical stuff they used every day. A quality set of dishes (not china!) - my mom's chemex. What's left of their old solid-wood furniture. That stuff has value to me - it was made differently - better quality, thicker, etc. Items that were part of pomp and circumstance used once or twice a year back then don't interest me.

Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by nkrisc on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @01:53PM (#24274002)
> Converelsy, what I have tried to instill in my parents as they downsize their belongings is that I want the practical stuff they used every day.

Amen! The most useful thing my parents handed down to me was the dishes we used for my entire childhood. They're just pretty basic stoneware dishes made in the ol' US of A but they held up for 30 years, starting from before I was born up until I got my own place after college. Then I used them for the another 10 years, and apart from some chips on some of them, or not having a complete set due to the few that broke, they look like they could be only a few years old.

It was kind of neat watching my son eat off the same plates that I ate off when I was his age.

We eventually got some new plates but have the old ones packed away. I'm curious to see how long the new ones last, I don't know if they make them like they used to.

Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by sumtechguy on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @02:54PM (#24274698)
Corningware for me. That stuff is borderline indestructible. All the other stuff I have bought over the years is broken, chipped, etc. But that older corningware. Good stuff. Even the shape makes everything stack nice and compact. My mom and dad have gone thru 3 or 4 sets of other stuff. A couple of other sets for me. But this stuff...
Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by CarbyAu on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @06:40PM (#24277108)
I too am a fan of Corningware. The shapes and weights suit me. It practically defines the concept of a bowl for me.

But I note you said "borderline indestructible". Not just "indestructible".

Which means I have found a fellow victim of ceramic shard explosion! They take a beating, but when they go, they go big!

Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by sumtechguy on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @09:26AM (#24282230)
True story: My Aunt: "These are unbreakable" My Dad: "They look nice" My Aunt: "watch this" yeeets a casserole dish on the floor... It was quite the mess.

The tea cups for me are hit or miss if they will survive. I think it has to do with the shape. Everything else is very tough.

Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by CarbyAu on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @07:00PM (#24288278)
"yeeets a casserole dish on the floor"

... you brought me to tears with laughter! :-)

Thank you, I needed that.

Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by nkrisc on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @07:31PM (#24277490)
The stuff I have is Salem Stoneware, from Salem, Ohio I think it is.

It's remarkable. Despite being probably around 40 years old the surface finish of the plates (which took many a steak knife) still looks brand new.

Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by zeveb on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @02:29PM (#24274427)
> I have a set of both - China and Silverware. I've never used either … I want the practical stuff they used every day.

Many china patterns may be used every day (not all: some are not dishwasher safe), and almost all silverware is usable every day (there are a few tricks, like not leaving it in contact with water and iron). Seriously, give it a shot!

Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by echelon on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @12:52PM (#24273343)
The current generation is going to get rid of it.

The subsequent generations may show some interest. And in their time it will either be scarce and perhaps of some value, or still abundant and cheap from the previous generations' lack of interest.

Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by ip26 on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @04:59PM (#24276044)
you could use it every day and enjoy the quality

That's the only road back I can see for silverware & china. Get people to actually use it.

It really can be nice stuff- it's just pointless if it lives in a big case.

(If it only lasts a year or three, there's plenty more where that came from)

Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by kevin_thibedeau on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @12:41PM (#24273204)
Leaded glazes make most china unsuitable for everyday use.
Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by analog31 on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @01:30PM (#24273763)
There are also issues with old stuff being dishwasher and microwave safe. And eating habits have changed. A lot of food is consumed from a bag or box.
Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by ghaff on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @01:46PM (#24273934)
I have my parents' wedding china. I did use it last December when I had a particularly big crowd over but mostly it sits in a cabinet. I use mostly stoneware on a day to day basis.
Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by walrus01 on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @01:53PM (#24274005)
The vast majority of it is not actually valuable in any way. Have you ever tried to liquidate the estate of a deceased boomer generation relative? North America is awash in consumer goods. Nobody wants 10, 15, 20 year old used household furniture and items. Very little of it actually has any value. It's a burden, not an asset.

Unless you are lucky enough to have an uncle who left an Apple Lisa in its original box on a shelf in his garage...

Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by WalterBright on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @04:03PM (#24275482)
The average aggregate value of household items in an estate is $900.
Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by 7786655 on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @05:54PM (#24276627)
Source?
Re:The fate of antiques and heirlooms in a disposable age by WalterBright on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @06:05PM (#24276746)
Don't recall, it's a figure from several years ago when I was dealing with estate issues.