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Re:TikTok Inc. vs. U.S. Department of Commerce by vmception on Monday August 24, 2020 @02:46PM (#24263982)
> Information on how this actually works is scarce since relative to the US there is much weaker rule of law/discovery, and fewer independent journalists

So often I tell people something and they say “source” and I tell them why a source is not possible or spell out the exact limitations in data collection and then downvoted to oblivion with a pile-on of why this worldview is irrelevant

This is not a feature of these kind of websites, it is absolutely a flaw

I would say most of the world is not google-able, if you are doing anything of consequence that affects others politically or financially or legally.

Re:TikTok Inc. vs. U.S. Department of Commerce by skybrian on Monday August 24, 2020 @02:56PM (#24264081)
But even if the sourcing isn’t ideal, you learned this somehow, right? Either through personal experience or reading it somewhere. If you don’t know how you learned it, how confident can you be that you understand what’s going on inside Chinese companies? And how can someone who reads your comment have any confidence in it?

The comment you’re replying to links to a news article from Reuters that is apparently based on discussions with company officials. That’s probably as good as we are going to get.

Re:TikTok Inc. vs. U.S. Department of Commerce by vmception on Monday August 24, 2020 @03:17PM (#24264329)
> And how can someone who reads your comment have any confidence in it?

By at least pretending it is valid and understanding that the reasons a source can't be provided is completely rational and having a discussion on that worldview instead of arguing flaws. This is a chronic issue on the internet: arguing flaws for no reason.

Re:TikTok Inc. vs. U.S. Department of Commerce by skybrian on Monday August 24, 2020 @06:37PM (#24266332)
I'm not sure what you mean by "valid." I think people can and should be kinder about asking, but it's always fair to ask "how did you learn that" if it's unclear.

But saying you don't remember is a fair response, too.

Re:TikTok Inc. vs. U.S. Department of Commerce by nxc18 on Monday August 24, 2020 @02:58PM (#24264108)
IDK, if folks were being less lazy they could point to articles in common publications that detail this system.

Link found via Google: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwic...

Re:TikTok Inc. vs. U.S. Department of Commerce by gonational on Monday August 24, 2020 @03:25PM (#24264419)
This process that you’re describing is how establishments, in general, prevent dissent, in general. They control most of the means of information dissemination, journals, media, education institutions, etc., as well as the badges and certifications necessary to create new means.

No, I don’t have a source.