Streaming Is Laying Bare How Big ISPs and Big Tech Work Together Against Users

Re:Streaming Is Laying Bare How Big ISPs and Big Tech Work T... by exar0815 on Monday August 24, 2020 @05:40AM (#24258968)

So the situation below the ground is not better than in Germany. We call the former monopolist with the violet T the "World champion in cramming data on a bell wire". Here its also just the choice between rather slow xDSL via ancient Copper, mostly older DOCSIS with abysmal upload speeds by Vodafone (Which bought out all Cable companies and is slowly rolling out D3.1) or some vey specialized construction when you are living in a rural area.

For my Parents, I built a 7 GHz Microwave Link to a neighboring Town with goodish network access. Luckily, there is direct LoS and we get 18-25MBit of the 30 through.

I am astonished tho, as I always had the impression that your mobile network is pretty good. In fact, as I work about 300m away from the dutch border, we regularly use VodafoneNL as Benchmark Network for our RF Products, as there atleast we get full 4G and not only 3G as on the german Vodafone Network.

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Re:Streaming Is Laying Bare How Big ISPs and Big Tech Work T... by tremon on Monday August 24, 2020 @06:07AM (#24259126)

Mobile data is not a flat fee per month, they all have data caps above which you either start to pay extra or get a throughput comparable to POTS modem speeds. So it's not a viable replacement for the wired Internet connection everyone has at home.

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Re:Streaming Is Laying Bare How Big ISPs and Big Tech Work T... by exar0815 on Monday August 24, 2020 @06:37AM (#24259298)

The "problem" everywhere is streaming. 4G/5G would be a decent replacement for basically everything else. But streaming breaks every data cap, sadly.

Oh, and games. I just read that some modern games have patches(!) of over 100GB. What the hell?

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Re:Streaming Is Laying Bare How Big ISPs and Big Tech Work T... by virtue3 on Monday August 24, 2020 @12:23PM (#24262178)

pings/latency/spikes on 4g/5g are not quite as good as general broadband either.

At least that has been my experience in the US.

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Re:Streaming Is Laying Bare How Big ISPs and Big Tech Work T... by gsich on Monday August 24, 2020 @11:00AM (#24261319)

Some countries have a flat fee, with unlimited volume per month.

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Re:Streaming Is Laying Bare How Big ISPs and Big Tech Work T... by dtech on Monday August 24, 2020 @03:13PM (#24264284)

On mobile networks the situation is quite good. Vodafone, KPN and T-mobile have 3 separate networks and are heavily competing which each other.

Except for the availability of fiber, the broadband situation is fine, especially in cities. You have 40-500 Mbps down from Ziggo, and 40-100 Mbps from KPN. No data limits. Newly built and revitalized neighborhoods usually have FtH.

For the the consumer result of the duopoly is ok for consumers for now, but I fear for the effects in 5-15 years. You already see Ziggo growing bolder and more expensive as their lead increases.

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