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Re:AI slays top F-16 pilot in DARPA dogfight simulation by dogma1138 on Friday August 21, 2020 @08:46AM (#24234417)
Ejection is a thing. At this point it’s also about who has better missiles and more of them.

The USAF missiles will make guns obsolete doctrine of the 1960’s was premature not completely wrong.

Re:AI slays top F-16 pilot in DARPA dogfight simulation by t0mas88 on Friday August 21, 2020 @08:58AM (#24234494)
It's almost always about who has better missiles and longer range radar/sensors. No point in getting into a dogfight if you can shoot the opponent out of the sky from 100 miles away.
Re:AI slays top F-16 pilot in DARPA dogfight simulation by dogma1138 on Friday August 21, 2020 @10:40AM (#24235266)
In general yes you can make that distinction but more importantly this is a problem for peace time.

No one would authorize a non-visual shoot down of a target in a non-active AO and not during an actual conflict.

If you are at the stage where you have factions duking it out in the skies especially these days were talking about a major conflict in which case there won’t be any civilian jets flying there anyhow.

Re:AI slays top F-16 pilot in DARPA dogfight simulation by LandR on Friday August 21, 2020 @10:25AM (#24235126)
There is probably a way they know his, but can you really fire a missile at something on a computer screen miles away and be fully confident the thing you are shooting at is enemy military aircraft? And not say a civilian aircraft ?

I guess if its going fast enough its almost certianly a military aircraft. Can the radars in the military jets identity the type of the aircraft before it gets blown out of the sky?

Re:AI slays top F-16 pilot in DARPA dogfight simulation by greedo on Friday August 21, 2020 @03:43PM (#24238199)
Radars on the F-15 can determine the type of turbine on an aircraft...
Re:AI slays top F-16 pilot in DARPA dogfight simulation by DuskStar on Friday August 21, 2020 @10:37AM (#24235237)
Another way is to announce a no-fly zone and then assume anything within the zone is hostile. (Yes, civilian planes can still fly there, but they've literally been warned at that point)

I assume this would happen pretty quickly when a war went hot.

Re:AI slays top F-16 pilot in DARPA dogfight simulation by Pelic4n on Friday August 21, 2020 @10:36AM (#24235227)
Re:AI slays top F-16 pilot in DARPA dogfight simulation by DuskStar on Saturday August 22, 2020 @09:38AM (#24244035)
That lets you distinguish friend from not-friend, but not enemy from airliner.
Re:AI slays top F-16 pilot in DARPA dogfight simulation by TheOtherHobbes on Friday August 21, 2020 @10:07AM (#24234988)
Until it isn't, because the enemy has already captured and compromised your government back home.