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Re:Former Zoox employees sue, alleging rival offer was bette... by adriancr on Friday August 21, 2020 @06:24AM (#24233663)
not if the union negotiates upper limits on compensation.

Or it negotiates yearly raise brackets.

You can negotiate better individually if you are good and there arent union enforced guidelines, if you're not, the union deal would work out better.

Re:Former Zoox employees sue, alleging rival offer was bette... by kilotaras on Friday August 21, 2020 @06:39AM (#24233734)
Or it can do nothing of the sort, instead negotiating things like non-competes, options exercise window, etc. See screen writers or actors unions for examples.
Re:Former Zoox employees sue, alleging rival offer was bette... by PierceJoy on Friday August 21, 2020 @06:35AM (#24233715)
Professional athlete unions are a strong counter example. Unions do what their members want them to do.
Re:Former Zoox employees sue, alleging rival offer was bette... by zaarn on Friday August 21, 2020 @09:46AM (#24234831)
Then your union is bad and you should work to improve it.

No wonder if US unions always end up so bad if apparently nobody is willing to fix things and let pancilpushers do it.

Re:Former Zoox employees sue, alleging rival offer was bette... by adriancr on Friday August 21, 2020 @06:22PM (#24239489)
I'm in europe, unions are mandatory everywhere, some are good, some are not, average just do what the company wants them to, usually the 2-3% raise every year.

Unions don't really work for software, high demand, low supply of people, here you can negotiate better then without one, and if you are not happy, next job.

Re:Former Zoox employees sue, alleging rival offer was bette... by zaarn on Monday August 24, 2020 @12:16AM (#24257485)
They aren't mandatory everywhere, atleast in germany.

You can join the union or not. If you don't join you can still take advantage of the union negotiated rates or not if you wish. If you think you can negotiate better than the union you're still free to do so.

Re:Former Zoox employees sue, alleging rival offer was bette... by ideals on Friday August 21, 2020 @12:12PM (#24236111)
Do you see yourself as becoming a top earner in your field?

Do you know if you earn more than your colleagues? If so, is this because of your negotiating skills?

Re:Former Zoox employees sue, alleging rival offer was bette... by adriancr on Friday August 21, 2020 @06:13PM (#24239420)
I know I am compensated fairly and that puts me as top earner for my current country.

It is due to demand and offer for my technical skills... I switch or ask for a raise if I get a better offer, anyone can/should do that.

It's not due to unions. Here unions are mandatory and result is what I said earlier, that plus making it hard to fire incompetent people.