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Re:'Coup 53' tells the story of 1953 campaign by MI6 and CIA... by baybal2 on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @05:39PM (#24216948)
Israel is not a democratic country because it supports the Saudi monarchy, a completely unprincipled, and despotic regime. Basically a Middle Eastern North Korea.

A political regime supporting an inherently antidemocratic system is not democractic by the definition.

They are also very fond of the Egyptian Sisi, an another tinpot despot.

And am not joking here. People need to finally stop thinking of it as a some kind of tinfoil thing. The Israel—Saudi—Egyptian axis is 100% real. It sounds bizarre, but its true, been documentary verified, and supported by accounts of many diplomats of 3rd countries, US included. The open source investigatory journalists, among other things, established the fact of regular visits of their top officials to each other's countries.

https://www.google.com/search?q=israel+saudi+axis

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42094105

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Re:'Coup 53' tells the story of 1953 campaign by MI6 and CIA... by haltingproblem on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @05:44PM (#24217013)
So does the US, UK, France, Germany. By your definition there are no democracies in the world.

I was talking about the glories of Persian civilization and its glories and you had to drag in the "evil US-Saud-Egyptian" axis. You got an axe to grind.

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Re:'Coup 53' tells the story of 1953 campaign by MI6 and CIA... by tacheiordache on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @05:54PM (#24217152)
Surely the Persian civilization was glorious and it could still shine. The problem was you mentioning Israel and denigrating the Palestinians. I urge you to take a second look at this issue, Israel is a terrible oppressor of these people.
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Re:'Coup 53' tells the story of 1953 campaign by MI6 and CIA... by chishaku on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @06:01PM (#24217231)
> I was talking about the glories of Persian civilization

No.

What you were actually talking about and what people might be taking issue with:

- an implied claim that Palestinians currently enjoy rights to self-determination

- comparing 4.5 million to 450 million people as if the welfare of those 4.5 million are not worthy of discussion

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Re:'Coup 53' tells the story of 1953 campaign by MI6 and CIA... by haltingproblem on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @06:13PM (#24217369)
They do. They voted for their government in 2006. Then the ones who they elected decided to not hold elections again. Its good to virtue signal for Palestinians but atleast get the facts right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Palestine

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Re:'Coup 53' tells the story of 1953 campaign by MI6 and CIA... by chishaku on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @06:45PM (#24217714)
> good to virtue signal for Palestinians

It's clear who has the axe to grind.

> get the facts right

You're demonstrating that anyone can pick any facts to tell any story.

According to 'haltingproblem, self determination is being able to vote in an election in an occupied territory where there is no freedom of movement and a large portion of the population is dependent on humanitarian aid.

Since this is all so simple and clear to you, can you please arrange your facts to explain what the 982 UN resolutions on the "Question of Palestine" are about?

https://www.un.org/unispal/data-collection/general-assembly/

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Re:'Coup 53' tells the story of 1953 campaign by MI6 and CIA... by baybal2 on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @05:47PM (#24217065)
Out of these three, I think one one goes as far as do so boldly, loudly, and on the record.

> the "evil US-Saud-Egyptian" axis. You got an axe to grind.

Of course I do. For as long as I have a dime of moral judgement, and integrity, I will. Spawning Laden, Qaeda, other tinpot outfits, funding rogue dictatorships of Bashirs, Sisis, Gaddafis, committing the unspeakable barbarity of 9.11 attack, and effectively breaking the world as it is, for the last 20 years. What out of this is not worth the outrage???

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