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Re:What harm do minimum wages do? by bitdotdash on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @02:41PM (#24214333)
Slippery slope / Straw-man fallacy. One is to do with tying the minimum wage to a livable wage. The other is just large numbers for the sake of trying to win an argument. No one is arguing for $150/hr. The argument is simply that you aught not to be able to run a business and extract a profit if the cost to do so is employing people at such a low wage that they require governmental handouts just to pay rent and eat food. Given that, imaginary large numbers like $150/hr or $1500/hr do not come into play and thus do not need to be considered.
Re:What harm do minimum wages do? by OCASM on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @04:25PM (#24215899)
They don't need the handouts. They could for example live in communal spaces and share resources.

What exactly is "livable" anyways? Millions of people live every day with only a couple of dollars a day.

Re:What harm do minimum wages do? by RockIslandLine on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @06:05PM (#24217275)
"Millions of people live every day with only a couple of dollars a day."

Not in the USA they don't. There is no possible way that an individual could pay for food, clothing, and shelter on that income.

Re:What harm do minimum wages do? by OCASM on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @08:24PM (#24218510)
Sure, different countries have different living standards. That's the point. "Living wage" is an undefined, ever changing concept. Populist to the core.
Re:What harm do minimum wages do? by arp242 on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @09:06PM (#24218800)
What a strange argument; you can most certainly quantify living wage for a specific region by looking at the prices in said region.
Re:What harm do minimum wages do? by OCASM on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @10:15PM (#24219208)
It's not only the prices but the specifics of what "livable" means. For some it just means the essentials, to others it includes luxuries.
Re:What harm do minimum wages do? by arp242 on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @10:28PM (#24219270)
No, it's defined fairly clearly.
Re:What harm do minimum wages do? by ric2b on Thursday August 20, 2020 @03:15PM (#24227449)
Where can I see the definition?
Re:What harm do minimum wages do? by mrkstu on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @04:15PM (#24215734)
That is still better for society than not having the economic activity.

What exactly is the benefit of wholly depriving the putative worker of a job vs. making up the difference with something like food stamps and Medicaid?