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Re:California DMV Is Selling Drivers' Data to Private Invest... by giantg2 on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @11:39AM (#24211552)
That occurred before the law was implemented. The law put restrictions on who could access the information and for what purposes. That's why I'm asking if it is still a problem.

Also, using the 'one is too many' argument is not valid. We could apply that to outlaw cars, electricity, or any other thing that is accepted as useful but also kills people. The DPPA law allows debt collectors, repo men, and other neccessary societal systems to function while providing protection for the data. If there have been only a handful of incidents over the years, then I think it would still be a net gain for society. If there is a better way to regulate the data and still allow the systems in society to function, that would be great to explore, but I don't see any obvious improvements.

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Re:California DMV Is Selling Drivers' Data to Private Invest... by liability on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @12:01PM (#24211859)
> The DPPA law allows debt collectors, repo men, and other neccessary societal systems to function

You're wrong. They can function just fine without data from the DVM. Therefore, anybody being harmed by the sale of this data is one too many because there is nothing to offset this harm. Some harm is acceptable when it's offset by something else, like the utility of cars. That is not the case here.

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Re:California DMV Is Selling Drivers' Data to Private Invest... by giantg2 on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @12:07PM (#24211961)
How can they function without it? If you have a PI serve a subpeona, they need to know the address.

Also, where is your evidence that someone has be hurt?

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Re:California DMV Is Selling Drivers' Data to Private Invest... by liability on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @12:28PM (#24212272)
> How can they function without it?

Work a little bit harder doing some old fashioned detective work instead of just paying the DMV for their records? It's a bit more work for them but I don't give a damn. Your suggestion that they'd be up shit creek without the DMV is just flat wrong.

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Re:California DMV Is Selling Drivers' Data to Private Invest... by giantg2 on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @01:12PM (#24212880)
Even for investigations concerning vehicle ownership or theft? The DMV is the golden copy record holder for this information. It seems you have no background in this line of work.
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Re:California DMV Is Selling Drivers' Data to Private Invest... by lawnchair_larry on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @12:31PM (#24212301)
Most other similar societies around the world do not allow this, yet PIs and process servers still exist.
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Re:California DMV Is Selling Drivers' Data to Private Invest... by giantg2 on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @01:13PM (#24212895)
And how do they get the information? I would bet it's from the government...
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