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Re:Cerebras Wafer Scale Engine Gen2 7nm 2.6T Transistors by numpad0 on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @11:36PM (#24206906)
Not at all obsolete, defect rates rise exponentially as you increase die sizes, so wafer scale chips are stupid and wrong, but in financial sense only.

If you’re paying up for an entire batch and you only need one working example out of it, it probably matter less.

Re:Cerebras Wafer Scale Engine Gen2 7nm 2.6T Transistors by ahupp on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @12:08AM (#24207064)
They disable bad parts of the die, like bad sectors on a disk.
Re:Cerebras Wafer Scale Engine Gen2 7nm 2.6T Transistors by gridlockd on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @05:39AM (#24208686)
At that point, is there really a benefit of having it all on one wafer, as opposed to just using chiplets?
Re:Cerebras Wafer Scale Engine Gen2 7nm 2.6T Transistors by ahupp on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @10:50AM (#24210940)
Presumably there is, but wonder the same thing.
Re:Cerebras Wafer Scale Engine Gen2 7nm 2.6T Transistors by jecel on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @03:37PM (#24215201)
With wafer scale the amount of connections that can cross a border between two tiles is limited by the spacing rules for the top metal layers and by the number of layers you can dedicate to this (1 or 2, I would guess).

For TSMC N7 Design Rules[0] the pitch is 720nm for the top two metals (1388 wires per mm) and 76nm for the middle metal layers (13157 wires per mm).

In the case of chiplets on an interposer, if we suppose that the interposer can use a process similar to the top layers of the wafer then the number of wires between chiplets is the same. But you need pads and solder balls from the chipets to the interposer (and back on the other side). These pads can be in a grid pattern (like in a BGA package) so the area is the limit instead of perimeter. Let's be optimistic and suppose a pitch of 30µm for the copper pillar micro-bumps.

With a conservative 1000 wires per mm of perimeter the pads are not the limit with a chiplet larger than 3.6mm per side. With a more aggressive 10000 wires per mm the chiplets would have to be larger than 36mm per side, which is just beyond the reticle size limit of many chip fabs.

[0] https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/7_nm_lithography_process

Re:Cerebras Wafer Scale Engine Gen2 7nm 2.6T Transistors by RL_Quine on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @12:37AM (#24207175)
This only works for some things, if you lose a clock or some part of the chip is just spewing garbage into whatever bus it’s using, you’re hosed.
Re:Cerebras Wafer Scale Engine Gen2 7nm 2.6T Transistors by cma on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @01:07AM (#24207313)
They fuse it off