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Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by gowld on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @01:09PM (#24201256)
> I don't see a lot of hereditary names

1. There's a very specific reason for that: the computer revolution and the monopolies created by it.

Wait a few years to see what happens to teh children of the people on that list.

2. Look at the Waltons -- The only reason Bezos is the richest person in the word is because the waltons share the inherited wealth between them.

Look at a list of families, for a more accurate view of the Aristocracy:

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/insights/070116/top-25...

Most of these are ~100 years old.

Walton, Koch, Cargill-MacMillan, Cox, SC Johnson, (Edward) Johnson, Hearst

Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by roenxi on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @01:20PM (#24201410)
All but 5 of those families have less wealth than MacKenzie Scott; whose claim to fame is marrying the son of a bike shop owner.

The odds of breaking in to that list are something like 1 / 300,000,000 but evidence is anyone can do it. MacKenzie is also my subtle counterargument to "Look at the Waltons". Breaking up the wealth ain't always voluntary.

Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by hannasanarion on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @04:25PM (#24203916)
*grandson of one of the first nuclear engineers and nephew of one of the most successful musicians of the 20th century, whose parents had nearly a million (2020) dollars to spare to help him get in on the dotcom boom. But anyway.

Those are about the same odds as breaking in to the House of Lords.

Would the explanation that "while it is statistically impossible, it is strictly speaking plausible for an extremely devoted and lucky regular person to join the club" be a good enough excuse for re-introducing a landed aristocracy to American government, in your estimation?

Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by Gibbon1 on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @05:05PM (#24204339)
I just remember when I was school in the 60's there were a lot of games played where one person out of 30 would 'win'. Very much like professional sports. Talked to my dad whose much older. He said they didn't do that when he was a kid. I think schools don't do that shit as much because they realize that one kid has a very temporary positive experience and 29 kids have a negative one.

Seems to me where the system is fair is unimportant, first we know it's not. Second is it designed to create disparities and a negative experience for most people. From a societal point of view that probably bad. And as I like say, the needs and wants of a couple of super wealthy people shouldn't be anything society cares about.

Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by mlindner on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @01:57PM (#24201897)
> 1. There's a very specific reason for that: the computer revolution and the monopolies created by it.

This is called recency bias. "This time is different." as opposed to all the other times they said "This time is different."

Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by isoskeles on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @01:40PM (#24201670)
> There's a very specific reason for that: the computer revolution and the monopolies created by it.

200 years ago> There's a very specific reason for that: the cotton revolution and the monopolies created by it.

150 years ago> There's a very specific reason for that: the industrial revolution and the monopolies created by it.

100 years ago> There's a very specific reason for that: the oil revolution and the monopolies created by it.

Etc.

Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by cycomanic on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @04:19PM (#24203840)
Yes and what happened every time in between? Significant civil unrest or wars. The first and second world wars actually acted as great equalizers (as did the civil war, the French revolution etc.) everytime after a new "aristocracy" develops and tries to keep keep the wealth to themselves. So I guess we need another upheaval, is that the argument?
Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by isoskeles on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @07:38PM (#24205619)
Last I checked, WWI and WWII didn't take place nor start in the US. Keep reaching.