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Re:Ask HN: Finding the Australian Aboriginal flag in all art... by sloaken on Monday August 17, 2020 @11:31AM (#24188187)
I would assume you could not copyright a national flag. If so, well heck I can think of a bunch of flags I need to get copyrighted.
Re:Ask HN: Finding the Australian Aboriginal flag in all art... by stephen_g on Monday August 17, 2020 @11:36AM (#24188232)
How many flags did you design that later got adopted by countries or people groups?

There’s no question he designed it (although that artwork that contains a very similar design is very interesting). But the Government should have probably compulsorarily acquired it by now if he isn’t willing to give it up... I guess they’re waiting for him to die so it won’t be as easy for them to be dragged to the high court over the “on just terms” clause in the Constitution.

Re:Ask HN: Finding the Australian Aboriginal flag in all art... by thomasfromcdnjs on Monday August 17, 2020 @11:40AM (#24188263)
It won't be in the public domain until 70 years after his death. (Though it might be easier to override his heir's claim after he is deceased)
Re:Ask HN: Finding the Australian Aboriginal flag in all art... by stephen_g on Monday August 17, 2020 @09:06PM (#24194239)
I was talking about the latter - using section 51 of the constitution to acquire the intellectual property (the Australian Government can make a law to compulsorily acquire property from citizens "for any purpose" but only "on just terms").

My reasoning is that they're a lot more likely to have another "The Castle" episode (great movie, by the way) while he's alive rather than when the copyright is assigned or inherited to somebody else after his death.

Re:Ask HN: Finding the Australian Aboriginal flag in all art... by thomasfromcdnjs on Monday August 17, 2020 @10:37PM (#24194725)
Thanks! Do you perhaps know any cases of acquired intellectual property?

I don't see any mentions of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_51(xxxi)_of_the_Consti...

Re:Ask HN: Finding the Australian Aboriginal flag in all art... by stephen_g on Friday August 21, 2020 @01:04AM (#24232151)
Not that I know of, but I think it should be possible because copyrights, patents and trademarks are one of the areas the Federal Govt are constitutionally allowed to make laws about (which is the other test apart from being “on just terms”).
Re:Ask HN: Finding the Australian Aboriginal flag in all art... by arcticbull on Monday August 17, 2020 @05:52PM (#24192634)
Probably longer. Each time Mickey gets close to the end of the countdown, it gets extended by the US government and their crack squad of Disney negotiators.
Re:Ask HN: Finding the Australian Aboriginal flag in all art... by sloaken on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @11:18AM (#24199695)
I know right! It almost like Disney is using some magic (Constant Authorized Side Help (CASH)) to convince the US Gov politicians to keep moving the goal posts.
Re:Ask HN: Finding the Australian Aboriginal flag in all art... by ithkuil on Monday August 17, 2020 @11:33AM (#24188212)
well, you first have to create a drawing yourself and somehow get a nation state to adopt it as a national flag. Order of events matters.
Re:Ask HN: Finding the Australian Aboriginal flag in all art... by sloaken on Monday August 17, 2020 @11:37AM (#24188240)
Like the 'happy birthday' song, if it is not already copyrighted .... and who would copyright their national flag.
Re:Ask HN: Finding the Australian Aboriginal flag in all art... by 0xfaded on Monday August 17, 2020 @11:51AM (#24188366)
Happy birthday is now public domain https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You
Re:Ask HN: Finding the Australian Aboriginal flag in all art... by goodcanadian on Monday August 17, 2020 @12:15PM (#24188629)
Well, technically, the claim was never valid, but I guess it was easier to avoid the song or pay up than it was to take it to court.
Re:Ask HN: Finding the Australian Aboriginal flag in all art... by lazyant on Monday August 17, 2020 @08:42PM (#24194075)
A lot of products use the Swiss flag because of this.
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Re:Ask HN: Finding the Australian Aboriginal flag in all art... by dragonwriter on Monday August 17, 2020 @11:59AM (#24188443)
> You can't copyright a national flag,

Except maybe the US flag in the US (given the particular US prohibition on copyright of federal government works), I don't see why not; and, actually, if the US were to adopt a private design as the official national flag rather than commission it, I'm not sure it would be a problem even in the US, since other private works adopted as national standards but not created by government in the US remain protected by copyright.

There are certainly ways a private copyright on a national flag is inconvenient, but inconvenient and impossible aren't the same thing.

Re:Ask HN: Finding the Australian Aboriginal flag in all art... by 0xffff2 on Monday August 17, 2020 @11:51AM (#24188365)
I know virtually nothing about this topic, but Wikipedia says that the flag "is one of the officially proclaimed flags of Australia", and the page "List of Australian Flags" [0] lists it as a national flag alongside the flag most people would recognize as the Australian flag. It seems plausible to me based on this that the flag is really a national flag for legal purposes.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_flags

Re:Ask HN: Finding the Australian Aboriginal flag in all art... by thomasfromcdnjs on Monday August 17, 2020 @11:57AM (#24188423)
Here is the original proclamation -> https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2008L00209

"I, PHILIP MICHAEL JEFFERY, Governor‑General of the Commonwealth of Australia, acting with the advice of the Federal Executive Council and noting the fact that the flag reproduced in Schedule 1 and described in Schedule 2 is recognised as the flag of the Aboriginal peoples of Australia and a flag of significance to the Australian nation generally, appoint that flag, under section 5 of the Flags Act 1953, to be the flag of the Aboriginal peoples of Australia and to be known as the Australian Aboriginal Flag with effect from 1 January 2008."

Re:Ask HN: Finding the Australian Aboriginal flag in all art... by refurb on Monday August 17, 2020 @11:52AM (#24188379)
How is it racist? The designer and person who owns the copyright is aboriginal too.