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Re:Pathological Lying: Theoretical and Empirical Support for... by wittyreference on Monday August 17, 2020 @10:22AM (#24187508)
Uhm... good?

A basic facility with lying is a fundamental social skill. Unless you intend for your children to be socially awkward / socially ineffective, lying is necessary.

The point, much like physical strength or any other sort of double-edged human ability, is to plug it into their broader moral framework, to guide when and for what purposes and to what degree.

Re:Pathological Lying: Theoretical and Empirical Support for... by whatshisface on Monday August 17, 2020 @10:47AM (#24187802)
>lying is necessary.

I hear this a lot but do you have any examples?

Re:Pathological Lying: Theoretical and Empirical Support for... by wittyreference on Monday August 17, 2020 @07:12PM (#24193394)
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/014616729420300...

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1021369327584

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0261927X9514300...

https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/11808412/personality_a...

This was like, five minutes on google scholar. I'm not going to pretend it's a slam dunk "here's a paper from the esteemed Harvard Professor of Lying-is-Awesome, presenting the grand unified theory of 'deceptiveness and social skills are overlapping traits'," but it's pretty much the null hypothesis.

Re:Pathological Lying: Theoretical and Empirical Support for... by whatshisface on Monday August 17, 2020 @09:59PM (#24194530)
I could probably find evidence of a high correlation between Football performance and performance in a medieval swordfight, but does that mean it's necessary to stab people? Obviously people who have better social skills are better at deception, and for that matter people with more general intelligence are better at it. What I'm looking for is an example of a case where deception is "necessary," not useless or destructive.
Re:Pathological Lying: Theoretical and Empirical Support for... by mcv on Monday August 17, 2020 @10:59AM (#24187932)
Maybe it's that claim that's the necessary lie.