I've visited SF about four times over the last few years - staying between one and three weeks each time.
Ready? Lean in close so this doesn't get out.
Some people go to bars... to drink.
Crazy, right? I know! But it's true, I swear.
And it turns out San Francisco has -- well, at least pre-pandemic -- bars that make really good drinks. Smuggler's Cove is hands down one of the best tiki bars in the world. Rickhouse is a great (if crowded) new-deal whiskey bar, right around the corner from another great (if crowded) new-deal tiki bar, Pagan Idol. Tadich Grill is like stepping back in time. Trick Dog is wildly inventive and kind of nuts. Bourbon & Branch is a dynamite speakeasy. Buena Vista has legendary Irish Coffees. Cliff House is kind of a tourist trap, but their Ramos Gin Fizz is on point and you can sip it while looking out plate glass windows overlooking the Pacific. And speaking of gin, there's Whitechapel, which is like someone opened a goddamn steampunk bar in an abandoned London subway station. Tequila? There's Tommy's, a dive Mexican restaurant whose tiny dingy bar happens to be run by a guy designated as a "tequila ambassador" by the Mexican government.
I'm sorry San Francisco bars didn't live up to your standards as pickup joints. But maybe when you come back here sometime you could, you know, get a drink. Cheers.
Hanging out with a group of guys with everyone drinking a ramos gin fizz while overlooking the Pacfic doesn't seem what the average guy would seek in a bar.
What does on point mean? Is this a drink you order everywhere and the quality at this place is comparable to others you've tried?
Is Gin a popular choice for a young person in sf?
"Ramos Gin Fizz is on point and you can sip it while looking out plate glass windows overlooking the Pacific."
> if that's not why you go to bars, i have to ask -you'd enjoy going to bars with mostly men?
Which is a pretty dismissive normative claim (it excludes women too for what it's worth).
It's OK if other people are having a conversation that isn't directly about you. Even better to reach out and see how it could apply to you if you think being in a bar with very few people you could be potentially attracted to would be less fun.
I was pointing out that it was unfortunately that he structured his argument and tone in such a way that it was the reason he goes to bars, it was _the reason_.
It's not a big deal, but it's not helpful and worth thinking about.
> It's OK if other people are having a conversation that isn't directly about you.
(FWIW this does apply to me, I just think this stuff matters).
Also this:
> there are very few attractive girls at bars, or at offices, or even on the street, compared to just about anywhere in the world. and if that's not why you go to bars, i have to ask -you'd enjoy going to bars with mostly men? because that's cool too -once in a rare while
Is so awful that the only explanation is that the whole thing is a shitpost.
Boom, mystery solved. Case closed.