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Re:Amazon Liable for Defective Third-Party Products Rules CA... by bitcoinbutter on Sunday August 16, 2020 @12:57AM (#24175274)
It's crazy to me that if I want to buy Ray Ban sunglasses off Amazon, I am routed by default to random third party sellers. I have purchased these once before and I'm almost positive that I received a fake product.

How can I know for sure though? How does Amazon know for sure? Since that experience I have looked at Amazon in a different light, and I've realized how difficult it is to source name brand products with confidence.

This is as good a time for blockchain as any. Register genuine products on a blockchain and have them scanned once they hit the Amazon warehouse to ensure they are authentic.

Re:Amazon Liable for Defective Third-Party Products Rules CA... by foepys on Sunday August 16, 2020 @01:34AM (#24175464)
How does blockchain help here? The database would be extremely large - too large to hold for any ordinary computer system.

The basic problem is solveable without blockchain by simply registering products by their serial number on the brand's website, which a lot of brands actually already do for higher priced products.

Re:Amazon Liable for Defective Third-Party Products Rules CA... by ss64 on Sunday August 16, 2020 @04:41AM (#24176239)
Then the scammers would just copy the serial numbers, you would have to link every number with a customer name
Re:Amazon Liable for Defective Third-Party Products Rules CA... by mrob on Sunday August 16, 2020 @09:09AM (#24177462)
You don't need to link it to any customer details. The way it usually works is the website records every serial number checked, and warns you if somebody has already checked that serial number. For additional assurance the serial number can also be concealed with tamper-evident packaging, e.g. scratch-off paint.
Re:Amazon Liable for Defective Third-Party Products Rules CA... by colejohnson66 on Sunday August 16, 2020 @03:26PM (#24180458)
D’Addario has a “serial number” check webpage for their guitar strings. If you enter an invalid (or previously used) serial number, supposedly (I’ve never had a counterfeit set) they’ll send you a genuine set for free.

Sure, some people will input fake serial numbers to get a free product, but they probably weighed the cost of counterfeit strings affecting brand image (if I don’t know mine are counterfeit, I’ll assume it’s D’Addario’s fault if they’re bad) with the cost of sending a free set of $5 strings.

Re:Amazon Liable for Defective Third-Party Products Rules CA... by outsomnia on Sunday August 16, 2020 @01:52AM (#24175561)
Sorry, this doesn't seem to be the fabled, elusive use-case for the Blockchain Industrial Complex either.
Re:Amazon Liable for Defective Third-Party Products Rules CA... by Tarragon on Sunday August 16, 2020 @01:13AM (#24175358)
> How does Amazon know for sure? Since that experience I have looked at Amazon in a different light, and I've realized how difficult it is to source name brand products with confidence.

You buy them wholesale from the manufacturer?

Re:Amazon Liable for Defective Third-Party Products Rules CA... by heavyset_go on Sunday August 16, 2020 @03:17AM (#24175906)
> Since that experience I have looked at Amazon in a different light, and I've realized how difficult it is to source name brand products with confidence.

This has been a solved problem for any legitimate business. The only other place I've seen such lack of quality control were at flea markets, which doesn't say anything good about Amazon.

Re:Amazon Liable for Defective Third-Party Products Rules CA... by opencl on Sunday August 16, 2020 @05:09AM (#24176357)
They already have exactly that, minus the unnecessary blockchain bit. It's called Transparency.

The problem is that manufacturers need to opt into it and there is no way as a consumer to tell on a product listing whether or not the product is part of the registry.

https://brandservices.amazon.com/transparency/learnmore

Re:Amazon Liable for Defective Third-Party Products Rules CA... by chaostheory on Sunday August 16, 2020 @01:13AM (#24175362)
This the example I point out whenever an Amazon employee mentions letting customer QA 3rd party garbage.