Re:What it’s like to go into lockdown for the second time
by zaroth on Saturday August 15, 2020 @07:25PM
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If they aren’t willing to lockdown protests then I can’t quite see the point of locking down otherwise.
NYC is my canary in the coal mine. As long as NYC does not see a resurgence I will believe that the level of herd immunity in NYC is enough, combined with common sense hygiene practices, to keep Rt below 1.
Re:What it’s like to go into lockdown for the second time
by batt4good on Sunday August 16, 2020 @05:22PM
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Winter will be interesting both in terms of the NYC economy and covid. Once it's too cold for outdoor dining more businesses will likely close (there's just no way to avoid this, as someone with family in the restaurant industry I find it dumb that more people don't acknowledge how slim the margins of most restaurants are).
It'll be interesting to see how the remaining population in the city fares. If I wasn't waiting to see if I had an office in March or had a lease that I couldn't break there's no way I'd be staying here.
Re:What it’s like to go into lockdown for the second time
by Lammy on Saturday August 15, 2020 @07:13PM
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I hope this comes off as politely as it is intended, but do you think your friends' observations also hold across class boundaries and not just across ethnic ones?
Re:What it’s like to go into lockdown for the second time
by batt4good on Sunday August 16, 2020 @05:10PM
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No worries, I think in NYC they happen to be more ethnic. Only since poor white communities generally reside in NJ or surrounding states.
I've only lived here for six months though, so I don't really consider myself in a position to comment on either of their observations.
Re:What it’s like to go into lockdown for the second time
by gnusty_gnurc on Saturday August 15, 2020 @07:10PM
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As someone in the area, agreed!
A big reason the lock-down ever worked was the sheer exodus of people from Manhattan. Brooklyn and outer boroughs never really had full-quarantine. People hate to admit it, but my friends who live in neighborhoods with high minority populations complained of constant block parties and drinking in the streets - largely pointing to why queens and Williamsburg were hit hard.
I lived a mere three blocks from one of the hospitals that was overrun with patients and for months had multiple chilled semi-trailers filled with dead bodies.
New York has been absolutely decimated, I honestly don't see small business and restaurants coming back in even two years, even if a vaccine is found. I'm starting to shift to the side of finding a compromise to help working class people get back on their feet. Government hand-outs will NOT fix this.
I whole-heartedly supported the first lock-down, but I no longer believe a second lock-down would really help anyone. Obviously, masks should become a social norm but I believe once daily testing before entering certain businesses or buildings will become commonplace. It's already common practice at hospitals and certain federal buildings.