Re:Neoliberalism and the End of Democracy [pdf]
by anoncake on Saturday August 15, 2020 @04:04PM
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You cannot have freedom without democracy (unless of course you're part of the ruling class). When someone else rules over you, you aren't free.
Democracy does not guarantee freedom but it greatly increases the chances and distributes it more equally. Your chance of being "tyrannized" by the majority is less than 50%. A ruling class you aren't part of will tyrannize you.
Re:Neoliberalism and the End of Democracy [pdf]
by TouchyJoe on Sunday August 16, 2020 @01:40AM
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> When someone else rules over you, you aren't free.
That is the case in today's so called democracies. Just because you pick your ruler doesn't mean you have any say in the fate of society.
check the video for actual democracy: https://youtu.be/qH43YHaUGyQ
Re:Neoliberalism and the End of Democracy [pdf]
by extradesgo on Sunday August 16, 2020 @02:58AM
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See the difference between saying democracy is necessary for freedom and saying that democracy obviates freedom. Parent comment only made claim to the former.
As far as a critique of the actual paper, it seems to be predicated on the idea that democracy and freedom are synonymous when in fact they're orthogonal concepts. You can have tyrannical democratic structures, in fact that's what the founding fathers sought to combat in the original system they laid out which was less democratic than it is now (e.g. only land owners, people who have skin in the game, can vote).
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic." – Benjamin Franklin